Arumba vs Wiz petition!!

[HoridMatec]

Deathmatch isn't a very good way to tell who is the better EU4 player since success in EU4 depends on so many other factors than just throwing armies at each other. At best you can weed out militarily incompetent players. I do well in both internal and public MP, mostly because I'm a very good diplomat. In terms of technical gameplay skill I'm good but not as good as say, Jake. It's hard to tell how I measure up to Arumba since I know it's harder to play a game when you're also recording it. I think if he was playing BBB without recording he'd have succeeded long ago.

Yes but this would be for fun, I would love to see a YT serie with you and arumba.

edit: also when I finally got in touch with you. could you take a look at https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/fps-issues.879125/#post-19857858

I got problem with fps. there is all information

 

[Wizzington]

Yes but this would be for fun, I would love to see a YT serie with you and arumba.

Maybe if me, Jake and him tac team Livonian Order we have a shot at taking down Riga.

 

[HoridMatec]

Maybe if me, Jake and him tac team Livonian Order we have a shot at taking down Riga.

haha that would be awesome XD

 

[Arumba]

Maybe if me, Jake and him tac team Livonian Order we have a shot at taking down Riga.

Oh c'mon Wiz now you're setting us up for failure. If you set their expectations that high there's no way we could deliver.

 

[HoridMatec]

Oh c'mon Wiz now you're setting us up for failure. If you set their expectations that high there's no way we could deliver.

Glad you checked in. it was me who subed to you on your stream the other day if you remember ?

 

[Gnostek]

BBB is easier with 1.12, the 1.13 approach is hellishly more difficult. WIth 1.12 you can get the provinces to attack the vassals-to-be (out of coring range) adjacent to the provinces you just took, thus allowing core.

Particularly, you can attack sweden, get a province in southern finland, claim both novgorod and livonian order, and have a foothold there by 1460 at the latest, assuming you didn't go for the "no cb" approach and just diploannexed east frisia. By having a foothold in russia in 1460, you can get the 10 baltic provinces, 15 swedish provinces, 10 norwegian provinces,25+ russian provinces... piece of cake.

 

[tbhayward]

I actually failed that one too, at 93 european core provinces and a 7-province Scotland at 98% annexation.

Was a bit of a rage moment.

Big Blue Blob stories like this are just horrifying.

 

[net.split]

I actually failed that one too, at 93 european core provinces and a 7-province Scotland at 98% annexation.

Was a bit of a rage moment.

When I have a rage moment at a game I almost always lash out at the designers or developers.

"Who designed this piece of garbage feature?! Stupidest thing I've ever seen I swear to christ..."

"Wow, whoever built this level has absolutely no idea what they're doing. This is just completely wrong and bad and unfun."

"STUPID FRICKIN BUGS TEST YOUR GAME ALREADY GAAAHDFIOAUWE"

Then that moment comes when you realize

It's your own game

d'oh

 

[Wizzington]

I mostly just raged at myself for not remembering that occupation of a vassal cancels annexation.

Unlike Arumba, I don't always blame the AI when I lose.

 

[Pigeoncount]

Arumba doesn't always blame the AI. He also makes sure to blame you occasionally. More reason for you to show him up and accept the challenge!

 

[delpiero1234]

I mostly just raged at myself for not remembering that occupation of a vassal cancels annexation.

Unlike Arumba, I don't always blame the AI when I lose.

Talking about the AI: I want to say that the AI got a lot better in recent patches. Keep up the good work with the AI

 

[HoridMatec]

hey wiz. whats your steam id?

 

[Peachrocks]

I mostly just raged at myself for not remembering that occupation of a vassal cancels annexation.

Unlike Arumba, I don't always blame the AI when I lose.

Meaning you do sometimes? It must be nice having nobody to blame but yourself for when any number of things don't work properly .

 

[knoddy]

I mostly just raged at myself for not remembering that occupation of a vassal cancels annexation.

Unlike Arumba, I don't always blame the AI when I lose.

Isnt it the same thing for you, technically if you blame the AI your blaming yourself, and if you blame yourself your blaming the AI....mind blown!

 

[Afinati]

Most devs actually tend to be fairly mediocre players in my experience. There are exceptions, of course, and Wiz might be one of them (I have no idea), but it is very possible that they get trounced by very good players. Certainly, in most videos where devs of any game showcased gameplay which I've seen, I was somewhat underwhelmed by their playstyle.

At any rate, even though it would be interesting to see, I don't think I would recommend taking the risk to P'dox, foreseeing a lot of "Wiz can't even play the game he designs" threads. Game design has less to do with competitive level play anyways, except for certain highly polished MP experiences like MOBAs or ego shooters, and more with making a game appealing to the average players of the genre. As such, high level player skills may actually be more a hindrance than an advantage when designing a "good" (read: appealing) game.

Have you seen Johan play?

 

[celethiel]

Arumba a lot of time is busy talking and misses something....
or as is the case with his recent run with Genoa, "I need to take Ferrarra before Venice takes it..." it's 1453, only way that is happening in the next 37 years is if Ferrara is either a secondary or if Ferrarra declares..." doesn't think about some of the things he does... it was a bit of a rush too since he had just eaten 2 provinces not 5 years i think previously from the Milanese.... there is little doubt why the HRE Emperor un-allied him until after he was no longer emperor.
as for 3-mountain Achievement, That is an achievement i've never come close to doing, i personally would NOT want to play against a member of Paradox...But then i don't really want to play against another player... because at best I AM a mediocre player, at least i consider myself one.
btw didn't i see a thing were Arumba played alongside or against... Johann? or was it actually Wiz..

 

[alpaca]

Have you seen Johan play?

No. If you have a link, I'll check it out. Haven't been able to find anything on a quick search and I'm not interested enough for a more in-depth try.

 

[chochko12]

I actually failed that one too, at 93 european core provinces and a 7-province Scotland at 98% annexation.

Was a bit of a rage moment.

Currently doing Buddhists Strike Back and it's a lot of fun.

What about 1496, 90 cores war with Novgorod enough WS to get 10 crap provinces, but why not wait till the end of the year and getting 100% WS for MORE (full occupation and 5 yrs from war start)?! Coring time ends somewhere after when i need it to end... I was so close to get nice hole in my monitor.