Arumba vs Wiz petition!!

[delpiero1234]

Most devs actually tend to be fairly mediocre players in my experience. There are exceptions, of course, and Wiz might be one of them

Who says that YouTubers are better than 'fairly mediocre'? I heard a well-known EU IV YouTuber failed in a France achievement run

 

[knoddy]

Who says that YouTubers are better than 'fairly mediocre'? I heard a well-known EU IV YouTuber failed in a France achievement run

I imagine playing and commentating at the same time is not easy, and I dont really know any EU4 Youtubers who claim to be gods of EU4. Indeed EU4 can at times be a game that requires a high concentration level, and when you are commentating and playing its easy to make mistakes. All EU4 Youtuber's I have watched make mistakes. TBH it probably makes them more human in the eyes of the viewer and allows the viewer to relate more to them. sitting there thinking, crap I probably would have done that too!

I think Peoples desire to see something like this is probably born from a couple of places. Some people just want to see the Dev's play as its something we dont normally see. Some want to see the Devs get destroyed probably, some probably want to see Arumba get destroyed.

 

[alpaca]

Who says that YouTubers are better than 'fairly mediocre'? I heard a well-known EU IV YouTuber failed in a France achievement run

Well, I only watched his King of Jerusalem attempts, he's certainly a good player, although probably not great, either (or playing at too high a speed/being too distracted for that to shine through). Not claiming that I'm better, anyways, certainly not when playing at higher game speeds. But you're right, let's plays are probably more about entertainment value than skill, though the former is also usually sorely lacking - EU4 is just not that interesting to watch at live speed.

 

[Frozen Yakman]

Arumba tends to get distracted a bit too easily to be considered a great player.

 

[yuri2045]

Who says that YouTubers are better than 'fairly mediocre'? I heard a well-known EU IV YouTuber failed in a France achievement run

Not to mention the other great player being destroyed by Riga on stream

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

Who says that YouTubers are better than 'fairly mediocre'? I heard a well-known EU IV YouTuber failed in a France achievement run

5 times, even.

 

[Johan]

Most devs actually tend to be fairly mediocre players in my experience. There are exceptions, of course, and Wiz might be one of them (I have no idea), but it is very possible that they get trounced by very good players. Certainly, in most videos where devs of any game showcased gameplay which I've seen, I was somewhat underwhelmed by their playstyle..

Wiz is good enough to easily defeat your average double-three-mountains player.. Hell even I've done that.

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

Wiz is good enough to easily defeat your average double-three-mountains player.. Hell even I've done that.

So the strength of an AI Riga?

 

[Silmarion]

So the strength of an AI Riga?

Nothing is that strong.

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

Nothing is that strong.

Ulm.

 

[Pigeoncount]

So the strength of an AI Riga?

Did you guys catch DDRJake's last game as Livonian Order? Something weird happened.

 

[Necurok]

Did you guys catch DDRJake's last game as Livonian Order? Something weird happened.

1445? :O how and why?

 

[Wizzington]

Who says that YouTubers are better than 'fairly mediocre'? I heard a well-known EU IV YouTuber failed in a France achievement run

I actually failed that one too, at 93 european core provinces and a 7-province Scotland at 98% annexation.

Was a bit of a rage moment.

Currently doing Buddhists Strike Back and it's a lot of fun.

 

[Phibs]

Youtubers v devs. That'd be soo sweet.

 

[Peachrocks]

1445? :O how and why?

It was in the script, I don't buy it for a moment .

Also Wiz, your definition of fun is clearly different from mine. I dare you to choose a Buddhist religion when using your custom nation against the community .

 

[PedroVargas]

I actually failed that one too, at 93 european core provinces and a 7-province Scotland at 98% annexation.

Was a bit of a rage moment.

That makes me feel a bit better. In my fourth attempt I was at 100 provinces by 1500 - but 5 of them were not yet cored

It's an interesting achievement because it is one of the few that requires speed. 1.13 makes it a bit easier though, in 1.13 beta I frequently ran into weird pan-european coalitions like England/Muscovy/Sweden.

 

[Lamahorse]

Is it possible to make one's nation in multiplayer; anonymous? This would be incredible if you couldn't see which country is either human or which player. Kind of adds an extra layer of lolol.

 

[HoridMatec]

I actually failed that one too, at 93 european core provinces and a 7-province Scotland at 98% annexation.

Was a bit of a rage moment.

Currently doing Buddhists Strike Back and it's a lot of fun.

hey wiz. whats your opinion on you vs arumba ?

 

[alpaca]

Wiz is good enough to easily defeat your average double-three-mountains player.. Hell even I've done that.

I'm sorry, but what is "double-three-mountains"? WC with Ryukyu, losing it all, then doing it again before 1821?

 

[Wizzington]

hey wiz. whats your opinion on you vs arumba ?

Deathmatch isn't a very good way to tell who is the better EU4 player since success in EU4 depends on so many other factors than just throwing armies at each other. At best you can weed out militarily incompetent players. I do well in both internal and public MP, mostly because I'm a very good diplomat. In terms of technical gameplay skill I'm good but not as good as say, Jake. It's hard to tell how I measure up to Arumba since I know it's harder to play a game when you're also recording it. I think if he was playing BBB without recording he'd have succeeded long ago.