Armor and Piercing Formulas

[Sir Garnet]

No need for discussion on the merits of the formulas, just confirming whether these are accurate and unambiguously clear for the wiki:

for a division

• Armor: 30% * (highest armor of a battalion) + 70% * (average armor for all battalions and companies) = armor of the division
• Piercing: 40% * (highest piercing of a battalion or support company) + 60% * (average piercing for all battalions and companies) = piercing of the division

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Notes: Support companies have no armor and are all unarmored, so they all have a negative effect on the average. AT and AA do have piercing.

 

[Dalwin]

To add a bit to the above. The contribution in both armor and piercing for any given battalion is modified by the percentage of its equipment that it currently holds. So as a unit loses a few tanks, it's stats for both will diminish. This can change whether it pierces or is pierced in a given battle.

I believe this is only tested at the start of a battle and not readjusted every hour. I am not 100% certain on this last bit.

 

[Secret Master]

I believe this is only tested at the start of a battle and not readjusted every hour. I am not 100% certain on this last bit.

Are you sure about this? I've been playing on the assumption that it is dynamic.

 

[Dalwin]

Are you sure about this? I've been playing on the assumption that it is dynamic.

I did say that I was not 100% certain, but in watching a few battles run for several hours or even a day or two (in SP obviously), I could never detect my actual armor value shifting even slightly. But since negative proof is circumstantial evidence at best, I cannot be certain.

 

[Sir Garnet]

That is a very relevant point to include for clarity.

To test whether it is dynamic - would this be optimal: observe an offensive combat for some time, pause, observe stats and equipment totals, order attack discontinued, unpause so it takes effect, repause, check check the equipment totals to be sure replenishment has not occurred, then resume the attack and observe again. I don't know when new equipment might arrive in this process (in terms of unit status or time of day).

 

[Dalwin]

Another possibility is that it might be checked every 24 hours. Many things in the game are on daily cycles which is why some people notice a significant hesitation as the clock passes midnight.

 

[The Nothing]

That is a very relevant point to include for clarity.

To test whether it is dynamic - would this be optimal: observe an offensive combat for some time, pause, observe stats and equipment totals, order attack discontinued, unpause so it takes effect, repause, check check the equipment totals to be sure replenishment has not occurred, then resume the attack and observe again. I don't know when new equipment might arrive in this process (in terms of unit status or time of day).

I think the modifier from strengh missing is not displayed.

Playing Black ICE, with China versus Japan I noticed some japanese division were at perhaps 10% strengh, due to bad supply network, attrition, and very very bad AI decisions, like attacking mindlessly through mountains.

Even though that unit displayed perhaps 300 soft attack and some hundreds of defense, when I attacked that unit its organization just crumbled after a few hours of fight. In similar conditions, a japanese division at full strengh took me several days to defeat, since I'm attacking with mere militias units.

 

[Sir Garnet]

You mean that in battle view the enemy seemed to list its max possible numbers, not actual? This would seem to make some sense in intel terms so as not to give he enemy too much detailed info.

In tougher fights, have you noticed piercing changing to reflect lost equipment in the middle of combat?