Hi guys,
I was exchanging some comments on the effective men available by country in 1936 but then a guy asked me to pull out some figures to compare game's figures with real ones. For this reason I am opening this thread to shred some light at least on the biggest players. I will reserve some posts to them and then I will update the data as soon as I will get new information.
In the picture below you can find the armed forces (in thousands) starting from 1939 but we need 1936 figures
https://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/mharrison/public/ww2overview1998.pdf
Quoting from here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=212909&hilit=191649&start=15#p1927798
Happy to work with everyone is willing to contribute. I will add your name next to each country
In this post there is a list of countries and each country has a link to its own post.
Below I report the enlisted men by country in 1936, the reservist and the total strength. For details about each country please follow the link: You will see what I have found, what has been discussed and the references.
Definitions:
1) Standing army available to the country. This number depends on the conscription law and, obviously, on the budget much more than on country's population
2) Trained reserves available in a short time (few weeks usually) in case of mobilization. This number depends on the conscription law and, obviously, on the budget much more than on country's population (see for example the USA)
3) Total manpower available in the long run (for example the USA needed 2 years to train a division). This number depends on the conscription law and, obviously, on the budget but in this case the key factor is the country's population.
USA - (xtfoster, tommylotto) - about 165k - reserve 155k - total strength 320k
Soviet Union - (Mokael) - about 1m - reserve 3m (increases each year by 1m) - total strength 4m
France - 900k -reserve 5m - total strength 5.9m
UK - 321k - reserve 160k - total strength 480k
Germany - (Anichent, Harada.Taro) - 600k - reserve 1.2m (increases each year by 1m) - total strength 1.8m
Japan - 200k - ?
Italy - (Anichent) - 1.2m - reserve 2m - total strength 3.2m
Australia - (Telsor) - 3k - reserve 80k - total strength 83k
India - ? - ?
Canada - 86K (in 1936 the army was reduced) - ?
Finland (Kovanki) - about 30k - reserve 285k - total strength 315k
Poland - (ETAPOIS) - about 320k - reserve 1.180 - total strength 1.5m
Belgium - (mighij) - 100k - reserve 450k - total strength 550k
Yugoslavia - 148k - reserve 1.25m - total strength 1.4m
Czechoslovakia - (IronChefX, Lolkar) - 220,000 - reserve 1m - total strength 1.28m
China (Marfach) - 600k - reserve 1.1m - total strength 1.7m
Austria - (Anichent) - 30k - reserve 120k - total strength 150k
Turkey - (McIltis, Hayro) - 194k - reserve about 1m - total strength 1.2m
Spain - (dark devil) - about 240k - reserve about 2.9m - total strength 3.14m
Greece - ? - ? - total strength 430k
Norway - ? - ? - total strength 100k
Denmark - (uzo70) - 6.6k - 55k - total strength 60k
Netherlands - 68k -reserve 202k - total strength 270k
Portugal - (Jolt) - 114k - ? - ?
Sweden - (Miinda) - 25k - reserve 225k - total strength 250k
Siam - (McChicken) - ? ? - total strength 60k
I was exchanging some comments on the effective men available by country in 1936 but then a guy asked me to pull out some figures to compare game's figures with real ones. For this reason I am opening this thread to shred some light at least on the biggest players. I will reserve some posts to them and then I will update the data as soon as I will get new information.
In the picture below you can find the armed forces (in thousands) starting from 1939 but we need 1936 figures
https://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/mharrison/public/ww2overview1998.pdf
Quoting from here http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=212909&hilit=191649&start=15#p1927798
A good measure of the economy's capability for mobilization is the size of the army relative to total population:
France (1940): 5 million soldiers/42 million inhabitants (12%)
Germany (1943): 9.5 million soldiers/81 million inhabitants (12%)
USSR (1943): 12 million soldiers/130 million inhabitants (9%)
UK (1944): 5 million soldiers/48 million inhabitants (10%)
China (1948): 6.5 million soldiers/550 million inhabitants (1.1%)*
*June 1948 strength: 3,650,000 men for Republic of China, 2,800,000 men for People's Republic of China.
China in the civil war could mobilize only 1% of it's population, industrialized countries can mobilize 10 times the share. That's because the proportion of output that can be mobilized for war is much higher in industrialized countries, in China 90% of output was self sufficient agricultural products. You cannot recruit too many peasants because the population starves. So it's accurate to say that China could only mobilize perhaps 5% of it's national product, while Japan could mobilize 50%. Explaining why China's large PPP GDP couldn't be converted into fighting power.
Happy to work with everyone is willing to contribute. I will add your name next to each country
In this post there is a list of countries and each country has a link to its own post.
Below I report the enlisted men by country in 1936, the reservist and the total strength. For details about each country please follow the link: You will see what I have found, what has been discussed and the references.
Definitions:
1) Standing army available to the country. This number depends on the conscription law and, obviously, on the budget much more than on country's population
2) Trained reserves available in a short time (few weeks usually) in case of mobilization. This number depends on the conscription law and, obviously, on the budget much more than on country's population (see for example the USA)
3) Total manpower available in the long run (for example the USA needed 2 years to train a division). This number depends on the conscription law and, obviously, on the budget but in this case the key factor is the country's population.
USA - (xtfoster, tommylotto) - about 165k - reserve 155k - total strength 320k
Soviet Union - (Mokael) - about 1m - reserve 3m (increases each year by 1m) - total strength 4m
France - 900k -reserve 5m - total strength 5.9m
UK - 321k - reserve 160k - total strength 480k
Germany - (Anichent, Harada.Taro) - 600k - reserve 1.2m (increases each year by 1m) - total strength 1.8m
Japan - 200k - ?
Italy - (Anichent) - 1.2m - reserve 2m - total strength 3.2m
Australia - (Telsor) - 3k - reserve 80k - total strength 83k
India - ? - ?
Canada - 86K (in 1936 the army was reduced) - ?
Finland (Kovanki) - about 30k - reserve 285k - total strength 315k
Poland - (ETAPOIS) - about 320k - reserve 1.180 - total strength 1.5m
Belgium - (mighij) - 100k - reserve 450k - total strength 550k
Yugoslavia - 148k - reserve 1.25m - total strength 1.4m
Czechoslovakia - (IronChefX, Lolkar) - 220,000 - reserve 1m - total strength 1.28m
China (Marfach) - 600k - reserve 1.1m - total strength 1.7m
Austria - (Anichent) - 30k - reserve 120k - total strength 150k
Turkey - (McIltis, Hayro) - 194k - reserve about 1m - total strength 1.2m
Spain - (dark devil) - about 240k - reserve about 2.9m - total strength 3.14m
Greece - ? - ? - total strength 430k
Norway - ? - ? - total strength 100k
Denmark - (uzo70) - 6.6k - 55k - total strength 60k
Netherlands - 68k -reserve 202k - total strength 270k
Portugal - (Jolt) - 114k - ? - ?
Sweden - (Miinda) - 25k - reserve 225k - total strength 250k
Siam - (McChicken) - ? ? - total strength 60k
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