Armageddon Consolidated China Improvement Pack

[Abominus]

May we use some parts of your MOD for our MOD A.E.I.O.U.

You can find it under www.abominus.de.vu

 

[mib]

So, apparently the 1.2 patch for DD:A has been released, meaning I no longer have an excuse to not update CCIP. Well. I can't really think of another excuse to use, so yes, I will update the mod, but it might take a while. o

Hi mib! First I want to say thanks, CCIP is always my favorite mod.
And now I am working on my new mod "Last Emperor of Qing" for HOI2DA.
Do you mind if I use some of CCIP event? (with some fix)
I will use Bitter Peace, Treaty of Humiliation, and resource events.

Thank you! You may feel free to use these CCIP events.

I have meant about implementing your mod in Über Balkan Mod, with giving credits to all people who worked on CCIP mod.

Well, I'm not sure that you need to use the entirety of CCIP, given that your mod is about the Balkans?

If Mao told 6 of his generals to go north and attack, they would. If Chiang Kai Shek did the same thing; 3 generals would take their armies north, 2 would say they were and then wait 3 weeks to move, and the last would figure out who the enemy to the north was and try to cut a deal.

Haha, too true!

Hello guys! I have just uploaded the newer version of the graphic pack, please click here to check it out!

And maybe the link on the very first page will have to be changed, too.

Done! (You're doing way more modding than I am...)

May we use some parts of your MOD for our MOD A.E.I.O.U.

You can find it under www.abominus.de.vu

Which parts?

 

[clanjay1989]

Glad to hear that! Actually I'd prefer to have the graphic mod incorporated into the main mod so people will not have to download two different things. How does that sound to you?

 

[unmerged(81141)]

So, apparently the 1.2 patch for DD:A has been released, meaning I no longer have an excuse to not update CCIP. Well. I can't really think of another excuse to use, so yes, I will update the mod, but it might take a while. o


Thank you! You may feel free to use these CCIP events.


Well, I'm not sure that you need to use the entirety of CCIP, given that your mod is about the Balkans?


Haha, too true!


Done! (You're doing way more modding than I am...)


Which parts?

Because PRChina was one of the greatest partners of Yugoslavia after the WWII, as Non-Aligned country.

 

[Abominus]

Which parts?

I think about the techteams and the leaders.

 

[mib]

Glad to hear that! Actually I'd prefer to have the graphic mod incorporated into the main mod so people will not have to download two different things. How does that sound to you?

Next version?

Because PRChina was one of the greatest partners of Yugoslavia after the WWII, as Non-Aligned country.

Still, the whole thing? If you need something specific, I'd be more than happy to let you use it.

I think about the techteams and the leaders.

Go ahead!

 

[clanjay1989]

Next version?

If there's to be a new version, it's most likely to be after May, probably in early June, as I'm now really struggling to get a desirable grade to transfer... :wacko:

 

[unmerged(81141)]

Next version?

Still, the whole thing? If you need something specific, I'd be more than happy to let you use it.

Go ahead!

All right, thank you. I will use then some things about PR China.

 

[mib]

If there's to be a new version, it's most likely to be after May, probably in early June, as I'm now really struggling to get a desirable grade to transfer... :wacko:

Oh, I was suggesting incorporating your CCIP into the next version of my CCIP. But this is fine, too. I probably wouldn't be able to do a new release before the end of this school year.

All right, thank you. I will use then some things about PR China.

What exactly?

 

[unmerged(81141)]

Oh, I was suggesting incorporating your CCIP into the next version of my CCIP. But this is fine, too. I probably wouldn't be able to do a new release before the end of this school year.

What exactly?

I do not know yet. I must look closer your mod. When I find interesting things, I will note you.

 

[mib]

No new version for 1.2 yet.

BUT!

I was feeling artistic and did something else instead.

That's right folks, a loading screen/desktop background for CCIP, available in both widescreen and 4:3 formats. I like it. Comments?

http://www.filedropper.com/ccipbackground1440x900
http://www.filedropper.com/ccipbackground1024x768

 

[Chicken]

I'm not sure if it was documented before, but in the current version of the CCIP, the Tibetan Capitulation event for Communist China does not work. As I have pointed out below, it is due to what I assume is a typo that redirects the CHC-Tibet event chain back to the CHI-Tibet events. If this has been pointed out, or is irrelevant already, I apologize for pointing it out again.

event = {
id = 2497
random = no
country = TIB

name = "Tibetian Response"
desc = "China is demanding that we become part of their nation!"
picture = "tibet"

action_a = {
name = "We can not resist"
ai_chance = 90
command = { type = belligerence which = CHC value = 5 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2495 }
}

action_b = {
name = "We shall resist as best we can"
ai_chance = 10
command = { type = war which = CHC }
}
}

event = {
id = 2498
random = no
country = CHC

name = "Tibet Folds"
desc = "Tibet has agreed to become part of our nation!"
picture = "tibet"

action_a = {
name = "Good"
ai_chance = 100
command = { type = inherit which = TIB }
}
}

 

[mib]

I'm not sure if it was documented before, but in the current version of the CCIP, the Tibetan Capitulation event for Communist China does not work. As I have pointed out below, it is due to what I assume is a typo that redirects the CHC-Tibet event chain back to the CHI-Tibet events. If this has been pointed out, or is irrelevant already, I apologize for pointing it out again.

Thank you. This event has been fixed and the next version will have the correct event id.

 

[clanjay1989]

Actually I've thought about this a long time ago: some of the event texts and descriptions definitely needs modification. Let's use the event above as an example: Tibet has been part of China for hundreds of years, but this "Tibet has agreed to become part of our nation" sounds like China forces a foreign country to join itself, which I don't think is approapriate when China has the legitimate sovereignty over Tibet. Other than that I think just add a little flavor. For example the Japan reinforces North China Army event, giving some background, whether fiction or non-fiction, to the event will make the whole plot more interesting. If mib is happy with that, I could help out a bit on that part pretty soon (my summer is coming next week and will have a trip back home )

 

[General Guisan]

I agree on clanjay1989, some of the event descriptions are a bit weird and it would add flavor if they could get fixed.

 

[mib]

I've been working on an update and have made about 15 changes big and small (mostly small), as well as ensured compatibility with DDA1.2. v0.2 of ACCIP should be coming soon.

Actually I've thought about this a long time ago: some of the event texts and descriptions definitely needs modification. Let's use the event above as an example: Tibet has been part of China for hundreds of years, but this "Tibet has agreed to become part of our nation" sounds like China forces a foreign country to join itself, which I don't think is approapriate when China has the legitimate sovereignty over Tibet. Other than that I think just add a little flavor. For example the Japan reinforces North China Army event, giving some background, whether fiction or non-fiction, to the event will make the whole plot more interesting. If mib is happy with that, I could help out a bit on that part pretty soon (my summer is coming next week and will have a trip back home )

I agree on clanjay1989, some of the event descriptions are a bit weird and it would add flavor if they could get fixed.

OK... I think part of the problem is that I know much more about this in general than most players... so event descriptions that make a lot of sense to me might not to other people... it would be really helpful if everyone can tell me which events, specifically, are weird. Help is welcome, as always...

 

[clanjay1989]

I've been working on an update and have made about 15 changes big and small (mostly small), as well as ensured compatibility with DDA1.2. v0.2 of ACCIP should be coming soon.



OK... I think part of the problem is that I know much more about this in general than most players... so event descriptions that make a lot of sense to me might not to other people... it would be really helpful if everyone can tell me which events, specifically, are weird. Help is welcome, as always...

So let's use the Tibetan ultimatum event from above as an example.

event = {
id = 2497
random = no
country = TIB

name = "Tibetian Response"
desc = "Beijing demands a provincial, instead of an autonomous status, to be established in Tibet, and requires which to recognize China's unchallengable sovereignty over Tibet."
picture = "tibet"

action_a = {
name = "Agree to the will of the central government"
ai_chance = 90
command = { type = belligerence which = CHC value = 5 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2495 }
}

action_b = {
name = "Tibet deserves independence"
ai_chance = 10
command = { type = war which = CHC }
}
}

event = {
id = 2498
random = no
country = CHC

name = "Tibet Folds"
desc = "Tibet has agreed to give up its autonomous privileges and is now under direct rule of the People's government!"
picture = "tibet"

action_a = {
name = "Good"
ai_chance = 100
command = { type = inherit which = TIB }
}
}

There is plenty more. I wouldn't say the original ones are weird, just that adding more stuff to them will be even better. I'll try to organize a list of improvements that I think might be better as well as to finish the CHC models that are left untouched from the last update that I released a while ago so they could be included in the next update of CCIP.

 

[Porkman]

Tibetan Fun

This is mostly semantics and somewhat silly. Tibet's relationship with China was further than Korea's before the Japanese took it. In HoI terms, Tibet was a puppet country that allowed military access (even that's stretching it considering how much internal autonomy they had). I'm assuming that if the player defeats the Guomindang and Japan as the Commies, Mao would have imposed the Seventeen Points Agreement on the Tibetans as soon as possible. The event text should read:

name = "Tibetan Response to the Seventeen Points Agreement"
desc = "Beijing demands that Tibet be integrated into the People's Republic as a new "Autonomous Region" and requires it to recognize China's unchallengable sovereignty over Tibet. "
picture = "tibet"

action_a = {
name = "Trust the Communists to keep their promises. -- Sign the Agreement"


action_b = {
name = "This contract is worthless! Tibet deserves independence"

name = "The Dalai Lama signs the agreement"
desc = "Tibet has become a new autonomous region! We must be the red light that leads our Tibetan brothers from a slave society into a bright socialist future!"
picture = "tibet"

 

[ozman2]

May I suggest the Chinese event be written from the Chinese point of view, and the Tibetan event be written from the Tibetan point of view?

Clanjay and mib,
Will the next update address the following issues?
1) Chinese surrender to Japan should create U87, not CHI. It should also be written to allow delay between Japanese inheritance and re-release, allowing for save and reload in case Japan decides to release warlords. Also the AI should never release the 4 warlords.
2) Xian incident should sleep the correct people:
command = { type = sleepminister which = 52008 }#Zhang Xueliang
command = { type = sleepminister which = 52084 }#Zhang Xueliang
command = { type = sleepleader which = 50011 } #Zhang Xueliang
command = { type = sleepleader which = 50340 } #Yang Hucheng
Also I wouldn't mind if it also occurred on the historically correct date
but will defer to your discretion on that.
3) Chinese and Japanese India Land secession events 3539, 3540 should include in the trigger conditions:
exists = IND
and have independence for Ceylon (U83) as an option. Of course Subhas Chandra Bose will be a little upset over that so you can make India relations take a hit. BTW in real life when Japan controlled the 4 provinces Bose did declare India's independence.
4) Resource development events (e. g. 3534) should have the trigger rewritten:
Change from:
date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1936 }
offset = 300
deathdate = { day =30 month = december year = 1954 }

trigger = {
event = 3533
}
TO:
date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1936 }
offset = 15
deathdate = { day =30 month = december year = 1964 }

trigger = {
random = 3
event = 3533
}
As originally written, the command is executed 24 hours after save and reload. As rewritten, there is a 70 % chance that it will occur in 300 days.
This is the same way the Lend-Lease bug was patched.

 

[mib]

May I suggest the Chinese event be written from the Chinese point of view, and the Tibetan event be written from the Tibetan point of view?

A good idea. It would allow for a more immersive experience; at the same time shutting everyone up.

Clanjay and mib,
Will the next update address the following issues?
1) Chinese surrender to Japan should create U87, not CHI. It should also be written to allow delay between Japanese inheritance and re-release, allowing for save and reload in case Japan decides to release warlords. Also the AI should never release the 4 warlords.
2) Xian incident should sleep the correct people:
command = { type = sleepminister which = 52008 }#Zhang Xueliang
command = { type = sleepminister which = 52084 }#Zhang Xueliang
command = { type = sleepleader which = 50011 } #Zhang Xueliang
command = { type = sleepleader which = 50340 } #Yang Hucheng
Also I wouldn't mind if it also occurred on the historically correct date
but will defer to your discretion on that.
3) Chinese and Japanese India Land secession events 3539, 3540 should include in the trigger conditions:
exists = IND
and have independence for Ceylon (U83) as an option. Of course Subhas Chandra Bose will be a little upset over that so you can make India relations take a hit. BTW in real life when Japan controlled the 4 provinces Bose did declare India's independence.
4) Resource development events (e. g. 3534) should have the trigger rewritten:
Change from:
date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1936 }
offset = 300
deathdate = { day =30 month = december year = 1954 }

trigger = {
event = 3533
}
TO:
date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1936 }
offset = 15
deathdate = { day =30 month = december year = 1964 }

trigger = {
random = 3
event = 3533
}
As originally written, the command is executed 24 hours after save and reload. As rewritten, there is a 70 % chance that it will occur in 300 days.
This is the same way the Lend-Lease bug was patched.

1. When I get together a list of acceptable leaders for U87, I will do that.
2. Was fixed in DDCCIPv0.5. Unless it wasn't... I'll check.
3. The whole event chain seems rather weird, I'll probably overhaul it completely.
4. Will do.