Armageddon Consolidated China Improvement Pack

[clanjay1989]

After the Napoleon's Ambition Patch...which is expected towards the end of the month...so hopefully in 2-3 months.

To be more specific..."It will be out when it is ready"

Ah...That sounds like summer to me.

And concerning CHC encryption...They really didn't achieve total domination in intellegence against Nationalist China in the 30s. It wasn't until the death of Dai Li in 1946 that the Communists infiltrated almost every single part of the Nanjing government. The tragic defeat of the 74th Division was one of the results the Commies caused. But that was way after 1936...

 

[General Guisan]

Great to see this mod, some great work so far.

FWIW, the second biggest historical flaw with CHC (besides the fact that it is impossible to beat NAT or JAP with 5 starting IC) regards spies and encryption. Communist China is infamous for knowing about Hitler's war plans before Stalin, and it had tremendous infiltration of NAT. So CHC needs excellent starting encryption techs to see NAT & JAP troops levels and improve surprise ability, and should have lots so of spies in those countries.

Communist China never beat NAT & JAP in reality together, they hold out against the Nationalists, then "united" to stop the fascist flood from the east, afterwards Mao got a lot of "new" land in the North, HoI-style that would mean he would probably get around 35-40 IC, and then it's possible to beat Nat. Don't forget the chinese civil war wasn't only about industry/army, but also about motivation. Soldiers fighting for "their" country are much more motivated than bad paid petty-criminals forced into uniform.

But to win with Mao in HoI, it's pretty easy. Start annexing the region right west of you (who are allied with Nat. and at war with you) then get Tibet and those yellow flag with red star guys (sorry, forgot the name) into your boat, get the rich inland provinces from Nat. China or ally with them at this point when Jap. attacks, beat the Japs, beat Nat. China, beat SU, beat Germany, beat USA

 

[xtfoster]

Ah...That sounds like summer to me.

And concerning CHC encryption...They really didn't achieve total domination in intellegence against Nationalist China in the 30s. It wasn't until the death of Dai Li in 1946 that the Communists infiltrated almost every single part of the Nanjing government. The tragic defeat of the 74th Division was one of the results the Commies caused. But that was way after 1936...

Actually, Johan posted in the 1.1 patch thread "estimating 1.2 at end of february if all goes fine."

 

[clanjay1989]

Alright, a newer version of the CCIP graphic improvement project is expected to be released soon. I've seen people downloading it, but still I'd like to hear comments from people who have used them so I could better accommodate people's need and improve this project!

By the way, I find it sort of difficult to do improvement without knowing some of the people added by CCIP itself, so Mib, if you would, could you organize a list of those added leader/minister names in CHINESE? Thanks!

 

[Randwyck]

've seen people downloading it, but still I'd like to hear comments from people who have used them so I could better accommodate people's need and improve this project!

Well, I'm using it currently, and it surely beats vanilla graphics.
But honestly I think you should work more with contrast and brightness. And you should not cut out so much.

 

[Porkman]

I figured somone here would know

Is there anyway to make Doomsday display Chinese characters? I want to name armies historically and tell myself little white lies about playing HOI2 instead of practicing characters.

 

[clanjay1989]

Well, I'm using it currently, and it surely beats vanilla graphics.
But honestly I think you should work more with contrast and brightness. And you should not cut out so much.

Yep, will work on that part more. I don't quite get the latter part though...?

Is there anyway to make Doomsday display Chinese characters? I want to name armies historically and tell myself little white lies about playing HOI2 instead of practicing characters.

Of course. What part of the game do you wish to appear in Chinese? Leader names? Text? There's actually work on the internet that converts the game into both Traditional/Simplified Chinese, depending on your need.

 

[Randwyck]

I don't quite get the latter part though...?

I mean you should probably crop your photos in a different way, not cutting ears, noses and hats

 

[unmerged(81141)]

Could we implement your mod to Uber Balkan Mod?
Thank you.

 

[Porkman]

I'd like simplified and as much conversion as possible. I'd be content with just leader names but it would be cool if the whole interface could be changed.

I've been unable to find any conversion or language packs online though.

 

[mib]

I'd like simplified and as much conversion as possible. I'd be content with just leader names but it would be cool if the whole interface could be changed.

I've been unable to find any conversion or language packs online though.

Displaying Chinese characters would require changes to the exe, which is technically not allowed to be talked about on the forum. But yes, there is a Chinese localization mod, but I doubt it's up-to-date.

Could we implement your mod to Uber Balkan Mod?
Thank you.

Which part of it?

Alright, a newer version of the CCIP graphic improvement project is expected to be released soon. I've seen people downloading it, but still I'd like to hear comments from people who have used them so I could better accommodate people's need and improve this project!

By the way, I find it sort of difficult to do improvement without knowing some of the people added by CCIP itself, so Mib, if you would, could you organize a list of those added leader/minister names in CHINESE? Thanks!

o I don't have a list. And I have no time to make a list. o Spring break, maybe?

Don't forget the chinese civil war wasn't only about industry/army, but also about motivation. Soldiers fighting for "their" country are much more motivated than bad paid petty-criminals forced into uniform.

I must disagree with that characterization. Most of the people in the Nationalist army were your average men, and the main reasons they were not as motivated as the communist troops were: 1. They weren't fanatics brainwashed by a foreign ideology 2. The government insisted soldiers to be paid in cash, which rapidly lost value as the Nationalists lost ground, starting a vicious cycle.

 

[unmerged(81141)]

All of it. With appropriate credits.

 

[unmerged(87141)]

Hi mib! First I want to say thanks, CCIP is always my favorite mod.
And now I am working on my new mod "Last Emperor of Qing" for HOI2DA.
Do you mind if I use some of CCIP event? (with some fix)
I will use Bitter Peace, Treaty of Humiliation, and resource events.

 

[unmerged(81141)]

I have meant about implementing your mod in Über Balkan Mod, with giving credits to all people who worked on CCIP mod.

 

[Porkman]

Displaying Chinese characters would require changes to the exe, which is technically not allowed to be talked about on the forum. But yes, there is a Chinese localization mod, but I doubt it's up-to-date.


Which part of it?

o I don't have a list. And I have no time to make a list. o Spring break, maybe?

I must disagree with that characterization. Most of the people in the Nationalist army were your average men, and the main reasons they were not as motivated as the communist troops were: 1. They weren't fanatics brainwashed by a foreign ideology 2. The government insisted soldiers to be paid in cash, which rapidly lost value as the Nationalists lost ground, starting a vicious cycle.

The myth of fanatical communists vs. lazy nationalists was never really true until 1946. In the late 30's, the Nationalists were more professional and communist soldiers were more bandit like. The average soldier on both sides was equally unmotivated. The difference was in the unity of command that the communists had. If Mao told 6 of his generals to go north and attack, they would. If Chiang Kai Shek did the same thing; 3 generals would take their armies north, 2 would say they were and then wait 3 weeks to move, and the last would figure out who the enemy to the north was and try to cut a deal.

By 1940, the communists started getting the fanatical true believers but they never made up the bulk of the armies. Instead they were employed as sleeper agents, where they worked very well.

 

[Shadazar]

Hey

For the announce the PRC event you should move the capital from Ya'an to Beiping/Beijing. Its just one of those little inaccuracies that is starting to annoy me.

 

[xtfoster]

Hey

For the announce the PRC event you should move the capital from Ya'an to Beiping/Beijing. Its just one of those little inaccuracies that is starting to annoy me.

There IS an event to move the capital to Beiping. It should fire within 7 days of the "Proclaim the PRC" event (provided that CHC OWNS Beiping)

 

[henryjai]

one of the problem of the Nationalists is their corrupt Government, and their crazy inflation makes everybody hates them, at that time...this badly affects soldier's morale, and of course it makes communist's job much easier.

also, the Communist Generals are "better" than those of Nationalists.

i don't want to give comment about anything post-civil war, they are irrelevant.

 

[Shadazar]

Ah ok, there it is. Sorry about that. Thanks.

 

[clanjay1989]

Hello guys! I have just uploaded the newer version of the graphic pack, please click here to check it out!

And maybe the link on the very first page will have to be changed, too.