aristocrats

[unmerged(52995)]

I am curious about the Aristocrat bonus.

Wiki is silent on the exact increase in RGO productivity increase-, and is this dependent on the size of the aristocratic pop?

Also, will capitalists do anything for an uncivilized country?

 

[RELee]

This sounds like a question for Jingles, teacher of Jonesy.

 

[unmerged(131989)]

This sounds like a question for Jingles, teacher of Jonesy.

Haha! That is a malicious lie! Well... he introduced me to the assimilation cap table, but that's all really!

Anyway...

Yes the size of the Aristocrat POP does make a difference. The culture does not, however.

As for the size, well I believe it works with the usual tier system, due to these results from a quick test where there was 40,000 national-cultured POPs working in equal sized cattle ranches in a vanilla Revolutions game:

[U][B]Number of Aristocrats[/B][/U]	[U][B]Output (units)[/B][/U]	[U][B]Money (£)[/B][/U]
0			0.32		0.66
1,000			0.32		0.66
40,000			0.33		0.69
80,000			0.35		0.72

Moreover, the bonus granted is applied using some kind of tier system. That is, 100k POPs would be 100% efficient, etc... (can't remember the exact numbers for the tier system).

Actually, the VickyWiki does give good values for aristocratic effect on production bonus, here.

As for capitalists, they will just be there to get taxed for an uncivilised nation as they can't build factories or railroads when in an uncivilised country.

 

[Jingles]

Haha! That is a malicious lie! Well... he introduced me to the assimilation cap table, but that's all really!

Yeah, but that's like 85% of the game right there

As for capitalists, they will just be there to get taxed for an uncivilised nation as they can't build factories or railroads when in an uncivilised country.

They do technically provide the same bonus that aristocrats do, only for factories. I don't have any hard data or anything for this bonus, though. Theoretically, an uncivilized nation could have factories, such as the Ottoman Empire if it loses its civilized status to Russia after the Tsar of All Slavs event; or a similar unlikely situation.

Note to OP: as an unciv with capitalists, you will keep getting messages saying that factories are being built. But they're really not.

 

[unmerged(131989)]

Ahh yeah... I forgot to mention the bonus. They don't build for uncivs, though.

 

[Waffen9999]

Yeah they do. Capitalist do build for uncivs, at least in Revolutions they do. Play Japan, they can build factories, they just won't build railroads.

 

[unmerged(131989)]

Are you sure? Personally I've never experienced them build anything.

 

[SeedSnatcher]

Well, most (if not all) uncivs lack key techs that unlock factories for them to build, such as Freedom of Trade. Also, I think capitalists make less money in an unciv, so check both of those factors.