Aren't released nations supposed to have your religion?

[unmerged(811792)]

On eu4wiki.com it says that "The released nation will have your religion but not your culture.", and that was the case in an earlier game when I released a couple of native american nations as protestant. However in this game when I released Finland and Novgorod they both kept their orthodox religion although I am catholic. Is the religion change only forced when the released nation originally belongs to a different religion group, or what?

 

[smellymummy]

they get the religion of their capital province afaik

 

[DDRJake]

If the nation you release's capital is either a heathen religion (EG: Hindu to your Catholic) or your exact religion, then it will have your religion.

If the nation you release's capital is a heretic religion (EG: Orthodox to your Catholic)

 

[KPJ]

... then it has that religion (Orthodox in the example).

 

[Camtheman]

So simply convert only their capital province (you can find this out by hovering over their little shield on the province's core list, it will say "blah blah blah this nation can be created, this will be their capital city will be the only line that's different from other provinces with their core)

that way it'll be like you have +1 missionary, you don't have to pay the costs and they'll auto convert everything for you =P I do it all the time.

 

[Xara]

I thought that releasing them gave them your state religion, but did nothing at all to change what each individual province's religion was. So if you simply capture and release, they'll have your state religion but a bunch of heathen / heretic provinces. Then they get religious revolts that convert them back. So if you have strong conversion power you probably want to convert before releasing them

 

[User4035]

I thought that releasing them gave them your state religion, but did nothing at all to change what each individual province's religion was. So if you simply capture and release, they'll have your state religion but a bunch of heathen / heretic provinces. Then they get religious revolts that convert them back. So if you have strong conversion power you probably want to convert before releasing them

This is the way it works unless a recent patch has changed it.

 

[aitaituo]

I thought that releasing them gave them your state religion, but did nothing at all to change what each individual province's religion was. So if you simply capture and release, they'll have your state religion but a bunch of heathen / heretic provinces. Then they get religious revolts that convert them back. So if you have strong conversion power you probably want to convert before releasing them

This is the way it works unless a recent patch has changed it.

No it's how KPJ and DDRJake said. They get your religion, unless the religion in their capital province is considered heretical to your true faith, then they'll be that heresy. AFAIK, it's always been that way.

 

[dexterstclaire]

I'm pretty sure that if the state religion changes then the capital changes as well, but nothing else. Of course, in order to use camtheman's strategy, the AI has to want/have the ability to convert their provinces. Often without religious ideas vassals won't have the missionary power to convert Sunni provinces for instance or if they have high enough religious tolerance they might not even bother.

 

[DarkThug]

No it's how KPJ and DDRJake said. They get your religion, unless the religion in their capital province is considered heretical to your true faith, then they'll be that heresy. AFAIK, it's always been that way.

I second this. It work like this for me since 1.1.

 

[brifbates]

I second this. It work like this for me since 1.1.

It worked the same in EU 3 as well, if not even further back...

Exactly how DDRJake described it (except for leaving off the last line)... If the capital is a heathen religion or your religion then they get yours, if it's heretics then it gets that heretical religion. And yes, the ai is hit/miss about converting provinces although it will usually at least convert the easy ones (low tax, non-muslim)

 

[Lord Finnish]

Why would Finland even become Orthodox when released.

 

[smellymummy]

often the provinces over there are orthodox

 

[unmerged(811792)]

Alright, so heathen vs heretic, that would explain it. Thanks.

To clarify my original post, I was talking about releasing nations in peace time using the "create vassal" button, not as part of a peace deal. But I realize now I made a mistake with Finland, since they were indeed released in a peace deal, so they ended up with only one province which was orthodox.

 

[unmerged(804580)]

This question has been bugging me ever since I released Protestant Manchu as Buddhist Ayutthaya. When I released Malacca (all provinces Sunni), the state religion was Buddhist. In a rather late game (after 1700) I released the Manchus (all provinces Protestant), the state religion was Protestant. I was a despotic monarchy in the beginning, and administrative when I released Manchus, and I was wondering if THAT had anything to do with it...

But I don't know if the same will happen now, since it was 1.1.x. And how did the Manchus get Protestant? ... Japan conquered them, and the Kirishitan rebels got them in turn, and the Reformation spread to the Far East including Japan, Manchu and Korea.

 

[aitaituo]

Alright, so heathen vs heretic, that would explain it. Thanks.

To clarify my original post, I was talking about releasing nations in peace time using the "create vassal" button, not as part of a peace deal. But I realize now I made a mistake with Finland, since they were indeed released in a peace deal, so they ended up with only one province which was orthodox.

Nations released by peace treaty will always have their state religion set by the province religion in their capital and nothing else affects it.

 

[unmerged(811792)]

Nations released by peace treaty will always have their state religion set by the province religion in their capital and nothing else affects it.

Alright, thanks.