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I'm not disappointed to the least, but I would make the game more difficult than it appears now. AI is aggressive enough for my taste but everything feels too quick, like colonization, culture flipping, core crafting and such.

Making the game more painful but not overly painful would add to its longevity and rewarding-ness.

I dont mind the speeds of core creation and culture flipping, especially if you take into account the price. Doing to much of either could really set you back in other areas so if you want to advance your sort of forced to slow down your conquest.
 

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I dont mind the speeds of core creation and culture flipping, especially if you take into account the price. Doing to much of either could really set you back in other areas so if you want to advance your sort of forced to slow down your conquest.

+1

I dont know why people dont understand this. I guess because the demo is only 28 yrs. I want to see all the people whining about how easy it is to steamroll Africa & convert it after they try that & then keep playing til 1700. Lets see how far behind their conquest of Africa puts them....
 

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Not at all, but I will say I am hoping for more time mod to come about as I wanna play a conquer game and it seems much more difficult and slowed down in EU 4 so crossing my fingers for some extended time mod! :)
 

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I'm not disappointed at all. The game is not perfect, there are some issues to work on but in general EUIV seems to be a very good game and the rightful successor of EU3. On the other hand I'm worried about new DLC policy that Paradox introduced. I hope that developers will not try to feed on players and there will be no situation when we have to buy something that should be released as a patch. I've seen such policy several times and the only thing I can say is- sorry guys but that's not gonna work, I respect you and your work so please respect me and my wallet.
 

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I'm disappointed the demo is only 28 years and a choice of 4 nations. I'll wait until I've played through the actual game a few times before deciding whether the game itself disappoints me, but I'm not thinking that's very likely.
 

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I think in a sense, games of the depth of EU, and most Paradox games, never truly reach a 'finished' state...too many complex variables which, when altered/ fixed in patches, have unforeseen knock-on effects elsewhere. I take that as a trade-off for the pleasure of engaging with these (imo) unparalleled media experiences, the likes of which I could only have dreamed about 20 years ago.
Gawd's teeth, Dwarf Fortress started over a decade ago, and still hasn't reached V 1.0 yet! Give me that risk-taking and vision from developers any day!
 

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No I'm not disappointed, in fact I'm really looking forward to it.
 

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Nope. There are issues, but: 1) its just a 20-year demo 50 years into the game, 2) the demo was pretty cool, and showed off a lot of the awesome features.

DLC and patches are going to make this game even better, and mods will perfect the basic formula like all Paradox games.

I'm super excited. It's going to be great!
 

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I'm only disappointed that there was no mac version of the demo. My old windows laptop managed to play it after I dusted it off a bit. The biggest pain point was waiting for the dozens of Windows updates to go through.
 

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Tho I've preordered the game but there are some things that dissappoint me. Contrary to the general opinion about the massive improvement of the trade system, I think that it is not that great.
You are forever stuck with the same trade nodes, thus same streams.
Provinces are forever stuck on same trade centers.
Trade is not dynamic at all and there isn't much way to ifluence its flow.
One improvement I like is the advisor pool.
 

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Tho I've preordered the game but there are some things that dissappoint me. Contrary to the general opinion about the massive improvement of the trade system, I think that it is not that great.
You are forever stuck with the same trade nodes, thus same streams.
Provinces are forever stuck on same trade centers.
Trade is not dynamic at all and there isn't much way to ifluence its flow.
One improvement I like is the advisor pool.

its more dynamic and a huge improvement on EU3's really boring trade system. Maybe its not perfect, but it also sort of flows in a more realistic way, thats sort of how trade worked.
 

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How is it realistic if you can't create a trade node? In a eurocentric pov you may not have a problem as all trade flows to Europe.
I am not saying Eu3's trade system was perfect. However it made more sense how provinces interacted with the trade node. A country could create its node if he wanted to rise to a power as trade nation.