Are you disappointed?

[MrQwerty]

Not disappointed at all . Yes, I got the America silhouette issue in the demo, but that's it, and is more the problem or my laptop anyway. Besides, Zoft said he would have that problem fixed for full release, so customer support is certainly reliable.

If anything, I would want stability or colonization to be more fleshed out. However that would not so me from enjoying the game.

 

[barretta]

Something as obvious as peace notifications when not the leader to be not broken and based on the forum everyone found out after an 1hr of game play as Portugal raises serious concerns about quality control.
Unlike CK2 which runs fine for me I have found the demo unstable and again reading the forum I am not alone.
If the demo is built from the gold release.. Paradox needs to review it's beta process.

That being said I think the game is brilliant and from past experience we know that the kinks will get fixed with time. Cheers!

 

[unmerged(215686)]

Since the demo came out, I have scheduled Tuesday and Wednesday off to play the game.

 

[Joe_Chip]

No idea what's there to be disappointed at. I am quite enthusiastic.

 

[PlayerHOI]

Me thinks all of us "non dissapointed" players need to wait out the trolls and whiners not the game.

 

[Zarco]

If you are unhappy with the way the game has turned out based on the demo experience, youtube gameplay footage, and over-expectations due to awesome dev diaries then I can only tell you to wait for the following:

- Wait for at least 3 mega patches*

I am pretty sure the game will have many glitches and bugs on release, strange things will happen; sometimes funny and other times they will force you to quit the game and vent on the forum. So if you want better gameplay experience, wait a few months. Sooner than later a patch will be released that not only fixes the problems, but may introduce new features.

CKII was pretty much bug free on release, or at least had no game stopping bugs, lets wait until Tuesdat before we make any assumptions.

 

[unmerged(61166)]

It's just the demo. You guys (referring to the people who are already making judgements) are like those people who give ratings to products that haven't even come out yet.

 

[KGrob]

I always purchase the EU series and the HOI series when they are first released. Yes, they have always been buggy and somewhat limited upon the initial appearance of each series (EU3 and HOI3, for example). But after one or two expansions and then one or two patches after that, they always blossom into fabulous historical simulations.

The classic example for me was HOI3. HOI3 was a bit too buggy IMO when it first debuted...I think Paradox releases most of their games a bit too buggy in my view. Still, after the most recent expansion and subsequent patches, I'd consider HOI3 to be the absolute best game of its type anywhere...ever...it's really stunning. And EU3, after it's latest expansion and patches is right up there close.

Nearly every computer game released nowadays contains a few substantial bugs...it doesn't mean it's okay (IMO) to release games as such, but it happens for business and other reasons. The real release decision for companies like Paradox is not to wait until the game is perfect before release, because no game would ever get sold because none have ever been perfect...even after all their patches. Instead, the question is how close to perfect can you get ("should" you get) before the game goes to market.

I haven't played the EU4 demo yet, and I won't, and I'm sure I'll be disappointed in more than one aspect of EU4 when I begin playing it in a few days. But, I'm willing to bet that after a few patches and/or expansions that EU4 will evolve into another superb game just as most of the other Paradox games have ultimately turned out to be.

 

[MrLebanon]

No, demo has me more hyped for release than I was before

 

[hannibal_barca]

Some guys complains about EU4, they surely never played EU3 vanilla .

Hahah, Vanilla EU3 on release date was horrible. I mean absolutely horrible. Amazing Paradox has grown into since those days. I cannot wait to play the full version of EU4. I am love with the game. VENICE LA SERENISSIMA HERE I COME

 

[RX2000]

Are you disappointed?

If there is ONE thing you could change about EU4, What would it be?

No.

After playing the demo, I didnt find anything so far that I would change. Of course, I'm the kind of player that plays a Paradox game all the way through to the end. When I start as a Norse pagan in CK2 in 867 I play all the way to 1452. So when I start a EU4 game, I'm gonna be going all the way to 1800 or whenever it is the game ends, so I can see how all the design decisions play out. I think a lot of the grumbling on the forums now is coming from people who only play the game for a few years & then quit & start a new one. If you do that EU4 will play a lot differently, as it seems like a lot of the things they put in take a long time to play out. Like how everyone is complaining that it only takes a few years to core Morocco & convert them to your culture. That may be true, but look at all the points you have to use to do that. That could really hurt you in the long run, but in the 28 yrs the demo takes you dont feel it at all....

 

[kingsword]

I'm rather disappointed and yes, I'll wait for some patches and probably X-Mas sale on Steam.

I'd change the whole monarch power system if I could. It could have worked if it didn't govern practically every single thing in the game.

 

[arcain]

I loved the demo, and I will love the game. Too sad I won't get the chance to play it until next week - a dark shadow on my trip to italy! :blush:

 

[Plasma Doctor]

I think Monarch power being reduced for non-Western groups is... silly and overly punitive. I think not having a population counter for provinces spells issues for an eventual EU4>Victoria 3 conversion (If it so happens,) and I feel that there should be more involved methodolgy involving culture conversion. Is it a proganda campaign to make people change their ways? Is it a settlement policy? With population it could also be made that you sacrifice the production in one province (Since industrial production in the period before factories was based on your population) to change the other one to your culture, or maybe it has a more valuable good so you use the settlement policy to change it. THough that sounds like a neat feature if they decide to do slightly more indepth populations.

Demo though made me enjoy monarch power play, giving me times when I can save and other times to spend. Though I feel administrative power has too many uses in comparsion to the other two. Just a little bit harder to raise that one than the others, even with a high admin monarch.

 

[Derp]

I think it's pretty good. There are some oddities and questionable design choices but overall it seems solid.

 

[trcanberra]

You should go to the EU3 forum and look at the thread " IV - who is not getting it and why?" for some laughs.

Ooh - I started that thread - glad it has provided some entertainment :happy:

 

[unmerged(621604)]

I was writing a longer message about my opinions on the demo but it would have been too rude to post it.

 

[Teije]

I am cautiously optimistic so far. Lots of good changes from EUIII and the monarch point looks good, with some balancing true. Trade system looks way better and AI seems improved (from demos and Beta AARs). But given my gaming time is limited, I'll think I'll wait to invest my time until a couple patches are out. Having fun with CK2 right now anyways...

 

[Admiral Howe]

I never cease to be impressed by old school trolls. :rofl:

 

[Decimal]

No, not at all. A few little things could be tweaked. Will be an even better game when I can save!