Are we gonna fix War Score/Particpation/Peace conferences?

[TalyonUngol]

This is getting old. Just fought in a Multiplayer match with my buds with Greece, France and Poland in the same faction. We fought Italy who was fighting the allies((UK, Japan, Yugo, Czech, Albania and Romania))


UK dies alot in Egypt and Etheopia, while Greece invades Sicily and Naples, France and poland invades rome and Piedmont....

and UK gets double the war score in the peace conference...

the heck is that crap? We do all the work in actually WINNING the war and the allies just take it all? Really?

Fix this PDX... this is way more important than more focus trees...

 

[Bunnytob]

Dying gives you the most war score.

It's likely not getting fixed for a while.

 

[him_15]

Theses features will likely get some touches in future DLC.

 

[AP Erebus]

We don't need another one of these threads. There is already a hundred of these, and even a few "round up" threads.... Yes these systems have issues and yes, PDX knows about it (it's been on their long term roadmap for years).

 

[Hoi Neuling]

For that Problem I use the Peace-Conference-Mod.

 

[Kazakk]

....probably not. I was doing the Finland achievement to capitulate the SU. I actually had over 50% warscore, more than Germany, and I controlled Moscow. When the SU capitulated, I wasn't even invited to the peace conference and Germany annexed it all.
This game is beyond broken, they shouldn't focus on DLCs until basic bugs like this are fixed. And what, this exists for years already.

 

[Piotlus]

We don't need another one of these threads. There is already a hundred of these, and even a few "round up" threads.... Yes these systems have issues and yes, PDX knows about it (it's been on their long term roadmap for years).

I'm just going to put it here- read what you wrote once again.

 

[GrandVezir]

It's worth noting that "We bled for this" was an argument advanced by powers of the time (Italy, USSR), and accepted by their allies/co-belligerents. So *some* weight should be given to casualties taken.

Were I to re-design the system, I'd decrease the amount of score generated by casualties taken and strat bombing, and increase the amount for occupation and casualties inflicted. But it would require a bunch of testing to make sure that it actually produced more reasonable results.

One more thing to note: OP was gaming the AI, because he knows that Italy sends huge forces to Africa. That's why he and his buds got Rome, Piedmont, Sicily, &c. while the Allies were doing the (seemingly) pointless fighting and dying.

But while he was doing that, the Allies AI was setting up to game the peace conference. Ya gots played by the AI, sir.

 

[Supremeleaderpies]

One more thing to note: OP was gaming the AI, because he knows that Italy sends huge forces to Africa. That's why he and his buds got Rome, Piedmont, Sicily, &c. while the Allies were doing the (seemingly) pointless fighting and dying.

But while he was doing that, the Allies AI was setting up to game the peace conference. Ya gots played by the AI, sir.

okay HOLD UP.

how are you going to assume op and his boys are gaming the system, no where in his post did they say they were trying to take advantage of the ai?

Also not to mention its beyond absurd to say that they gamed the system because they invaded italy?

WTF?

guess im gaming the system each time i invade britain before taking out all of their colonial puppets? What even is this logic.

Its not the players fault that the ai doesnt always protect its mainland areas when fighting a war away from home, there is no "Gaming" or "cheesing" here at all.

 

[Finardin]

One more thing to note: OP was gaming the AI, because he knows that Italy sends huge forces to Africa. That's why he and his buds got Rome, Piedmont, Sicily, &c. while the Allies were doing the (seemingly) pointless fighting and dying.

This is a good point. Occupation is the most important factor (as someone that occupies teritorium could demand said teritory) but if you as England defeats the army of another nation that should count for something.

One example of something similar is if you as the US declare war on Japan early and blocked them so that their troops in china dies (very efective method) you atill get nothing in the peace conference. Obviously China did alla the work accordibg to the ai. So a pease conference based only on occupation would be wrong, but it would be better than this mess.

 

[Hannabal]

Paradox for fuck sake please fix the peace conference its been a problem since day one and the fact thats it still sucks balls is a god damn disgrace you make a lot of money of your loyal fanbase you could at least do the right thing and give them the one thing they have been asking for since launch rather then relying on modders to do it for you

 

[KubiG37]

Yeah the Victorious Allied AIs dismantling France and its colonies after the war is always amusing. You know, instead of just returning it to France. And France usually doesn’t even want its Alsace Lorraine back. (Anyone played Victoria 2? They soooo much want it back that they’ll rather break apart than not have its cores back!)

Soviets also always steal Savoy/Nice for some reason.

Usually Fascist Hitler remains in existence as well. Czechoslovakia remains annexed. Austria as well. Yugoslavia partially disintegrates...

Totally not broken at all. And “it’s been on their long term to-do list for looong time” - isn’t that the problem? That they just ignore it as something unimportant?