Are these cores supposed to disappear?

[Chronicler]

I have been wondering about this, let's say I conquer Byzantium (so it ceases to exist), then Byzantiums cores on the turkish lands disappear.

Is it suppose to be like this? Or what? it seems very strange.

(And with these cores I mean cores not owned by player that have 50 year limit on them.)

 

[unmerged(1047)]

There is a decision (Promote Cultural Unity) which allows a country to remove the cores of non-existent countries on their own provinces. (They can be regenerated by rebels, though.)

Also, the 50 year limit also applies to AI countries. It does only apply to provinces that are the "wrong culture" (at least for countries that do exist).

 

[sprites]

Countries annexed instantly lose their cores on lands that don't belong in their culture group.

 

[Atlanteax]

Countries annexed instantly lose their cores on lands that don't belong in their culture group.

Which is why should you ever inherit Byzantium, if you were to release it as a vassal, they generally would only "control" Greece, because as Sprites stated, they lost their cores on any provinces that were not Greek culture.

 

[Chronicler]

Which is why should you ever inherit Byzantium, if you were to release it as a vassal, they generally would only "control" Greece, because as Sprites stated, they lost their cores on any provinces that were not Greek culture.

Yes, and it's silly >_>.

 

[herrhals]

I think it makes sense.
Why should a conquered/annexed France be released owning Holland, Spain?

 

[Chronicler]

I think it makes sense.
Why should a conquered/annexed France be released owning Holland, Spain?

Because if they had cores they obviously had some kind of entitlement?

 

[xcrissxcrossx]

It's funny, I never knew this, but I think this is a great mechanic.

 

[Pewt]

Because if they had cores they obviously had some kind of entitlement?

I think it's because countries in EU3 attempt to represent two things; political "right" (for example, while the exact location of burgundy moved around, the concept of the Duchy of Burgundy/Kingdom of Burgundy existed for ages, and was always in a fairly small area) and the strength of the actual country (say, our aforementioned burgundy conquers the low countries). In the case of our Burgundy being annexed, the country ceases to exist and thus do all its claims, but the idea of a Kingdom of Burgundy sticks around and the area continues to be referred to by people as Burgundy.

 

[Garak]

It's simple, really. In the original, pre-expansion EU3, this mechanic did not exist, so all cores remained when someone was annexed. This led to some very bizarre results, like a one-province France popping up in Holland, or tiny little OPM Imperial states resurfacing in North America because they once had a colony there. Go look at the very early posts in Strange Screenshots thread and you'll see a lot of that. People grumbled about how unrealistic it was and Paradox eventually added extra mechanics to limit it.