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C'mon, if the Ottomans had conquered all of Italy in the 1700's we all know the rest of Europe would have been just fine with it. Right?

Seriously, the only thing weird about that situation is that GB and Scandinavia are NOT in a coalition against you.
 

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The AE from size was supposed to cap at +50%, it's bugged and is capping at +100%. Will be fixed.
 
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C'mon, if the Ottomans had conquered all of Italy in the 1700's we all know the rest of Europe would have been just fine with it. Right?

Seriously, the only thing weird about that situation is that GB and Scandinavia are NOT in a coalition against you.

If the land was taken over 100 years ago, then I doubt anyone would do much outside regular rivalries. AE should be something for Quick Coalitions that is temporary, with the rivalry system taking over for long term grudges. All of Europe should not be 100% united against you after 100 years, even if your Muslim scum and took over all of Italy. Unless there is some religious reason that is used for taking it back like a Crusade, I can't see it a bit thing , Opposing Ottoman rule of Italy after holding it for 100 years.
 
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If the land was taken over 100 years ago, then I doubt anyone would do much outside regular rivalries. AE should be something for Quick Coalitions that is temporary, with the rivalry system taking over for long term grudges. All of Europe should not be 100% united against you after 100 years, even if your Muslim scum and took over all of Italy. Unless there is some religious reason that is used for taking it back like a Crusade, I can't see it a bit thing , Opposing Ottoman rule of Italy after holding it for 100 years.

except that, yonkow, you kicked the pope out of italy, italy has been christian since forever, and you'd be knocking ont he door to europe. heck, even the english worried when the ottomans sieged malta. they realistically wouldnt just sit back and wait if you'd conquer your way up to the alps. for a lack of better mechanics this AE is fine.
 

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If the land was taken over 100 years ago, then I doubt anyone would do much outside regular rivalries. AE should be something for Quick Coalitions that is temporary, with the rivalry system taking over for long term grudges. All of Europe should not be 100% united against you after 100 years, even if your Muslim scum and took over all of Italy. Unless there is some religious reason that is used for taking it back like a Crusade, I can't see it a bit thing , Opposing Ottoman rule of Italy after holding it for 100 years.
Actually, it should be united against you. Italy is a vitally-important region, containing religious and scientific centers, as well as a fairly large concentration of wealth, besides the historical significance of Italy for christianity - I'd imagine that if the Ottoman Empire actually conquered Italy, Europe would've declared a second Reconquista and stubbornly grinded at the OE until it was out of Italy.
 

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back in my day (1.3), the AE size modifier was 300% and we liked it

now get off my lawn


nvm AE is completely out of control right now I just annexed a few HRE provinces and look at this ridiculous coalition!!

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The AE from size was supposed to cap at +50%, it's bugged and is capping at +100%. Will be fixed.

But why? Shouldn't a monster OE that includes Portugal and Savoy (and presumably a bunch of stuff in between) have huge AE just because it's big? Pretty much half of Europe and West Asia should be freaking out about being next, right?
 
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back in my day (1.3), the AE size modifier was 300% and we liked it

now get off my lawn


nvm AE is completely out of control right now I just annexed a few HRE provinces and look at this ridiculous coalition!!

-snip picture-

that doesnt say much on its own - what HRE province,s hwo many, hwo many AE did you have, ect.

in my current brandenbyrg run i'm about the size of france and i didnt even get someoen to coalition against me when i annexxed the hansa.
 

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Any chance for a new hotfix for beta regarding development too? Wink wink nudge nudge

Yes. Development will have a nonlinear scaling so it's cheaper at low levels but unaffordable at very high levels. Development Efficiency will be nerfed too.
 
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Yes. Development will have a nonlinear scaling so it's cheaper at low levels but unaffordable at very high levels. Development Efficiency will be nerfed too.
Thats good to hear, the current beta its crazy. I'm surprised we arent seeing OPMs at empire rank sometimes.
 

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Yes. Development will have a nonlinear scaling so it's cheaper at low levels but unaffordable at very high levels. Development Efficiency will be nerfed too.
U kidding me, will there be a way as modder to keep it linear, because there is other ways to fix this ?
And i dont want to basically stay on old patch all time.
 
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U kidding me, will there be a way as modder to keep it linear, because there is other ways to fix this ?
And i dont want to basically stay on old patch all time.

Yes, it's moddable.
 
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Yes. Development will have a nonlinear scaling so it's cheaper at low levels but unaffordable at very high levels. Development Efficiency will be nerfed too.
Any chance you could tell us the (rough) formula? I'd like to get the England Industrial Revolution Achievement now if development becomes prohibitively expensive at ~30 development already.