Are Regency COMPLETELY broken?

[MartinSWE]

i wouldnt hold my breath on a fix...

Neither would I since I don´t agree on that a 'fix' would be needed. If Regencies where painless (they NEVER where IRL) they would be increadibly boring.

 

[King Dave]

I once had the court jester take over the regency. How the hell would that ever happen?

 

[Isinfier]

Regencies could certainly do with an overhaul, or at least the ability to delegate management of x to a regent whilst away from court. Travelling for seduction, hunting, waging war abroad, suffering from prolonged ill health, etc.

 

[King Dave]

Travelling for seduction eh. Yeah I guess the King of Scotland would need to leave someone in charge whilst he travelled to Constantinople to seduce the Byzantine empress whilst her husband lay asleep by the side of her. Really the whole travelling for seduction thing is utterly ludicrous.

 

[omega20056]

They need actual powers, and a way to appoint them if you haven't appointed one. There also needs to be plots for vassals to become regent, or for a regent to usurp the throne. Your council should also have some sort of power, it means nothing as a vassal to be appointed to a position, except that you might die by event if you're posted somewhere. Vassals should plot to remove councillors, and your council should interact with the regency. The marshal should want to become regent, so should the treasurer, while the chancellor should be the first choice for a regent, and someone you might need to work around or have removed.

 

[LACKADAISICAL]

Regents have two priorities in my experience: they want to lower crown authority and not let you take ordinary administrative actions. Even if it is your unlanded mom, she'll suddenly become a diehard anarchist who wants minimum CA as soon as her husband dies. I once had CA go from High to Minimum in a single regency, because there is no limit to how many times it can be lowered during a regency. So it took 4 generations to get my laws back in order. And god forbid you win a crusade during a regency, 'cause you will be stuck with a massive desmesne full of titles which you can't hand out to anyone because your regent doesn't feel like doing the paperwork.

The regency revamp was a good idea, but it could use work. It'd be cool if, for example, a landed vassal could transfer weaker vassals into his control so that he can build up a long-lasting power base. And instead of regent swaps happening at random for no obvious reason, it'd be cool if powerful vassals could have a CB to seize the regency.

 

[Kumicho]

I've had zero (and I'm talking ZERO) issues with regencies. Step one, stay out of regencies when you can help it (don't allow your ruler to lead troops, stick with the health-generating focuses at the beginning of your reign, etc). Step two, make your wife regent. Step three, if you end up in a regency, just make them absolutely *love* you. As soon as it happens, send them a gift, and give them an honorary title (if you haven't already). If that's not enough, have them educate your brothers/sisters for an extra opinion boost.

Seriously, every time this issue comes up I can't figure out why people are having an issue with this.

 

[Jnik22]

I actually think the system is pretty good now, yes it is beyond frustrating:

In my current game, my character Empress of Hispania dies, leaving her 1 year old grandson the king of Leon on the throne, and not a month has passed, his father, the emperor of Byzantium dies, leaving me as a one year old, in charge of two empires, way over vassal limit, each of them hating my guts, over demesne size, and above all the doge of Venice as the regent, who apparently not only hates the young king, but also hates everyone else, thus rendering me powerless. I had some luck though, since the factions didn't rebel, and the regent died and was replaced pretty soon, with a new regent who allowed me to give out titles, lower my demesne and vassal limit. And the realm is surprisingly stable now.

What I wanted to say was, yes it can be really frustrating, but I'll take that any time, since its well realistic. Historically regencies shook up a lot of kingdoms, and were nightmares for many ruling families.

 

[Robert II]

I've had zero (and I'm talking ZERO) issues with regencies. Step one, stay out of regencies when you can help it (don't allow your ruler to lead troops, stick with the health-generating focuses at the beginning of your reign, etc). Step two, make your wife regent. Step three, if you end up in a regency, just make them absolutely *love* you. As soon as it happens, send them a gift, and give them an honorary title (if you haven't already). If that's not enough, have them educate your brothers/sisters for an extra opinion boost.

Seriously, every time this issue comes up I can't figure out why people are having an issue with this.

Most of the time your regents opinion doesn't matter as much as traits and of course there's ------ base reluctance regent Karl is a twat. Even if they love you and have traits that are fine they still lower crown authority and that's still bugged and can be lowered 4 times in a week.

Even your mother will steal counties (somehow it's an agnatic realm) and lower the crown authority because fuck me I guess.

 

[Anenu]

The last time I had a regency it dropped me from high crown authority to low which pissed me off because there was no way to get back over that rulers life. It would be one thing for it to drop 1 level and then your ruler can bring it back but it shouldn't be able to drop more than that.

 

[DukeDayve]

I've never had a regent that didn't lower crown authority to minimum. At this point for me getting a regent 100% means crown authority will be at zero within a few seconds.

 

[Ygdrasel]

Never had huge issues with regents. I mean, they won't approve my marriage arrangements but whatever. That said, all these ideas of vassals plotting for the regency and such sound awesome.

I always appoint my wife to the regency, for anything it's worth.

 

[DragonStryk72]

I believe that is actually a good system that needs to get better. You shouldn't be really able to make decisions as a 8 year old King, that's not realistic. Indeed, i would prefer that the regent should have even more power, in a Byzantium with viceroyalties, he should be able to give them to whoever he wants. That will make the realm possibly a mess? Yes, but regents rarely were paragons of loyalty to a young monarch. Young children must have a rough time, to be manipulated, to have the treasury looted by a unscrupulous regent, and maybe even have the risk of usurpation. Yes, even to refuse a betrothal, actually the regent could even have some voice to decide whoever their young liege would marry.

However, to be a regent should be great, but hard to keep. In a big empire, there would be a lot of people wanting to topple you and win your position, a smart regent would have to prevent himself against plotting. Why not even a casus belli to remove someone as regent? These mechanics need to be expanded, not reduced, and i don't believe that they are broken. It's Middle Ages, folks, that wasn't a time kind to young or incapable rulers.

True, but you also have to bear something in mind, as well. Regency can now be designated well ahead time as a minor title, so you can pick the person who will hold up things. Making certain you have kind, just people is actually possible now.

 

[A Secret Friend]

At very least, even if the actual regency mechanics aren't altered in any way, I would appreciate it if the tooltips actually told you why your regent refuses to comply with your actions even though they have more reasons to obey you than to disobey.

 

[Ygdrasel]

At very least, even if the actual regency mechanics aren't altered in any way, I would appreciate it if the tooltips actually told you why your regent refuses to comply with your actions even though they have more reasons to obey you than to disobey.

Thing is, the regent has nobody to obey - for as long as regency lasts, they're in charge. They don't need to explain themselves, same as anyone you enter negotiations with feels no need to explain 'base reluctance'.

 

[Kinkness]

One might say though that it's because being spammed with 500 events due to bad AI decision-making so you make the decisions for the AI isn't fun gameplay, just like how the Pope isn't playable.
However there should be a limit of one law reduction per regency, it's stupid that a super-centralized Empire can become entirely flipped on its head in the space of a couple of years. Yeah, we just demolished all the bureaucracy and no one complained! Sensible.

This ^

 

[Trumbettoo]

Just last night nightmare that was 22 years of „incapable regency“ finished. My ruler, who got hit in the head chasing morale broken army at the age of 38, finally died comatse in bad. Strong trait doesnt help either when you are incapable

So much for saving 1000 piety for invasion that cant happen.

My regent changed every few years, vassals were pissed because of demesne size which you cant reduce as you cant give away titles. Fractions start forming (none fired due to limited options to make them happy). Vassal limit over the top so when I die they get out. Wives taking demesne land for their own. Brother went decadent, laughed at my tips to streghten em up; I issued fatwa but alas, my regent wont let me imprison him. Decadence went from 0% to 27% in few years. Abbasids declare war. Cant educate noone. Another son got fuckedup traits as result of his decent loving teacher.

Strong Genius Heir was 14 yrs old when that happened. Now he is 36 with 7 daughters and 1 genius son.

22 years on maximum speed. Probably first time I used that. What'cha gonna do? Drool and mutter…

NIGHTMARE. Never again lead to battle. Yeh, I know I shouldn't but „it's broken army with 600 man and I got my 7k stack to clean it up“ brainfart issued.

p.s.

Not to mention rebellion started in first place bcz of my ploting to sort out duke holdings to be in one duchy. He rebelled and Abbasids declared war on him. Their armies fly through my land and are red to me. Fought them because of fucktard.

Luckily, no lowering of authority...

 

[Chunakun]

Last week I was playing a game in which I became incapable. I had a designated regent but my wife usurped the regency. My wife hated my guts because I had sired some bastard bays and had legitimized them (her own fault, she only gave me daughters). Luckily I got some kind of event in which one of the councillors discussed the bad way my regent wife treated me and suggested a solution to take care of the problem. I agreed (mumbling) and not long after my wife got imprisoned and got replaced by the councillor. I decided to execute my wife for the way she fucked me up during the regency. That was a nice event I did not know existed.

 

[Jirki88]

The big problem, it would seem, after having been through a few different Regencies, is that it's seriously haphazard whether the "Likes you +++++" modifier even apply. Often, it seem to just go *poof*, and you sit there with only the "Base Reluctance --" modifier and nothing else. Then you can't do ANYTHING. So yeah, something IS broken, but maybe not Regencies themselves as much as Modifiers that don't really apply...

 

[DPS]

vassals were pissed because of demesne size which you cant reduce as you cant give away titles.

This is the worst part of regencies IMO. The other things are annoying, but this can be a killer. I had a situation in which my ruler became incapable right before a war ended, a war in which I gained about 8 holdings. OK, now I'm way over the demense limit, and have no way to fix that. If you're above the limit, the regent should allow you to give away titles, at least until you're no more than 1 over the limit.[/QUOTE]