Are Games Converted From CKII Fun?

[Slayer4472]

Hello everyone,

I just recently purchased EUIV on Steam, and I noticed that a CKII DLC allows game conversion. Now, I've got a save from my first CKII game (1066-1453, began as Earl of Dublin, ended as Emperor of Alba and significantly more land) that I think would be enjoyable to play. However, I noted that my CKII game is significantly more blobby than the normal EUIV start. See for yourself:

The Empire in the North Sea:

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The Empire in the Mediterranean:

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The World as a Whole:

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You'll note that, with the exception of poor, poor India, all the nations are either Imperial or of significant size. My question is, will a game this blobby still be fun? Will game balance be broken due to the size of nations? Please help me, Forumites, you are my only hope!

 

[Vourtigaunt]

Usually not...unless you play a nation outside Europe or the player(s) have shown remarkable restraint in CK2 (meaning no europe-spanning empires). Or you try to bring your former empire down...

 

[Brannart]

I've found that CK2 games started at the 1066 date end up with reasonably plausible EU IV 1444 starts. I've played two from CK2 to EUIV and loved every minute.

 

[Holland989]

No, most of the time. If you play from 767~ to 1453 and you have conquered half of the world, then Eu4 is really boring because you are so OP and the others can't put up a resistance.
It can be fun, just make sure that the great powers are balanced

 

[TolHydra]

In my very first game, I splitted my Empire in 3, and had 4-5 blobs balanced fairly well and played as the weakest one, which I modded custom national ideas in. It was really enjoyable!

 

[Krajzen]

In my very first game, I splitted my Empire in 3, and had 4-5 blobs balanced fairly well and played as the weakest one, which I modded custom national ideas in. It was really enjoyable!

And this is the way of playing I love!

 

[ThatGuyYouKnow1]

In my very first game, I splitted my Empire in 3, and had 4-5 blobs balanced fairly well and played as the weakest one, which I modded custom national ideas in. It was really enjoyable!

Wait, how do you make your own custom NIs?

 

[Greenskyguy]

Wait, how do you make your own custom NIs?

You have to make a mod for the national ideas. There is no special editor for the National Ideas.

For example, here are some (kind of unbalanced ideas) for Germany.

GER_ideas = {
	start = {
		discipline = 0.05
		global_trade_income_modifier = 0.10
	}

	bonus = {
		land_forcelimit_modifier = 0.25
	}
	
	trigger = {
		tag = GER
	}
	free = yes		#will be added at load.
	
	german_infantry_school = {
		infantry_power = 0.10
	}
	restless_colonist_germans = {
		core_creation = -0.15
	}
	german_explorers = {
		colonists = 1
	}
	teutonic_histories = {
		land_morale = 0.20
	}
	noble_diplomats = {
		diplomats = 1
	}
	royal_military_school = {
		army_tradition = 0.5
	}
	province_system = {
		war_exhaustion_cost = -0.10
	}
}

 

[Finnway]

Not really. Usually the country you played as in CK2 will be the #1 world power for the entire game. If you do play an imported game turn on Sunset Invasion before you import and play as a nation outside of Europe. Turning on SI makes the Aztecs and Incas more powerful so they provide some competition to Western colonizers.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

You could observe mode it just to get a randomized starting map.

 

[blackchoas]

It is possible to make interesting alternate histories but you have to play CK2 to intentionally make an interesting EUIV game

I find it rather difficult but I have had some real interesting games

 

[Grafvitnir]

I'll go into what others have suggested. Get into your last save in CK2 and prepare your game for conversion.
Rearrange your vassals and grant independence and high titles to some, so you can have a Western Empire (Britannia, Hispania, etc.), an Eastern Empire (Baltic, Scandinavia), and a Southern Empire (Africa, Italy, etc.) all ruled by Emperors of the same dynasty. Use cheats to get nice clean borders that seem historically plausible, and do whatever other things you want for good gameplay or RP. I often edit the cultures of my vassals before granting equal titles, making something similar to the "Latin/Greek Roman" division if I have multiple distant empires.
Between your rival Empires, the HRE, the Caliphate and that Steppe Horde out there you should have an interesting game! Will your successor states ally, while conspiring to personal union one another, or backstab and let their rivals fall?

 

[Greenskyguy]

Also unless Holy Rome is at Absolute Crown Authority then it will convert over as the individual statlets like in the base game for EUIV.

 

[Khezef]

Also unless Holy Rome is at Absolute Crown Authority then it will convert over as the individual statlets like in the base game for EUIV.

I usually force France and HRE to merge and have a super statelet HRE form in EU4. It's more interesting that way.