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I'm considering buying the first two DLCs, are they worth it or are they pointless?
 

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Worth it
 

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I enjoyed them but there was a few bugs which were very annoying like France not interacting properly with the polish, Romanian, and Czechoslovakia alliance if they choose to aid the Czechs against German demands
 

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I like TfV more for the nations it fleshed out, but the mechanics in DoD (license production, conversion of equipment) are good, especially for multiplayer.
Since WtT is around the corner, I would recommend you wait for it to release, as the previous DLC will be put on sale as result.
 

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I'm considering buying the first two DLCs, are they worth it or are they pointless?

You should play a multiplayer game with a host who has the DLC, then you can decide if you want to buy them for singleplayer.
 

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I'm considering buying the first two DLCs, are they worth it or are they pointless?

If you like the game then the DLC's add useful mechanics and a lot of new content. Only you know how much you value $20.
 

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Absolutely worth it. If you look aside the features as the new puppet system etc, just the focus trees for the commonwealth countries and baltic nations are really good. They are so good they put the major focus trees almost to shame.
 

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I didn't get as much mileage out of Death or Dishonor than I did out of Together for Victory, but I'm still glad I got it. But I don't play Balkan minors that often, either.

And I also think DoD unintentionally screwed up some things relevant to MP play (Romania, I'm looking at you, son).
 

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I was mostly interested in playing as India. With TfV would it be enough?
 

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I think both DLCs are worth it *if you actually enjoy HoI4*, but only when on sale.

Lack of Bulgarian focus tree prevents me from endorsing DoD

Hopefully they will bundle Bulgaria with Greece + Turkey. Still, feels like a huge missed opportunity.
 

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If you are fond to playing with the nations involved or just want a more complete, immersive world (my case), definitely.
If not, then I'd wait for a sale or wouldn't get it at all, the mechanics aren't that game changing.
That said, TfV is probably more important for the autonomy system, and DoD pretty much broke Yugoslavia for historical games, so take that into account.
WtT will be absolutely worth a day 1 purchase though (and I chose to believe that the reason PDX hasn't addressed the problem for over half a year is that Yugoslavia will be fixed with the new war merging mechanic in cornflakes), so I think you should at least hold on to that.
 

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From an economical standpoint in relation to how much "fun time" you get out of it, I'd say no. Better to get mods and find a poor soul with good internet fiber who can by whatever dlcs there are (which at this point serve any viable purpose imho). I honestly don't recall any features in the previous dlcs that I have used to a serious extent except the lend lease before it was nerfed. Now the only thing it does is allowing people in MP to spy on their enemies tanks and planes and mix max tank/plane designs.

The base game is about 40, which despite its flaws has alongside with meme SPs and house rule mod MPs much more to offer than whatever a 15-20 dlc has. Bought the field marshall edition about 2 years ago, so I'll still get "more" out of it, but I wouldn't buy a DLC at this point, sorry, but that is what I genuinely feel. if PDX decided to actual bug fix and balance their dlcs better and focus more on game mechanics that make sense and are fun, then yeah, but right now, no. Even the upcoming dlc doesn't have a lot except some kind of features which help you attack forts and glide planes and air supply, but I don't think any of these are particularly useful more than the blitzarrow since microing is almost always better anyways except when you want the attack bonus. You can always just use house rules to deal with those issues though.