Are coalitions back? Can I play EUIV again?

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lucaluca

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I don't see any coalition clowns in my thread. Where are the people who can defend them rationally? Come on, surely someone intelligent can take that side's banner and argue in the mechanic's favor in my thread, even if they don't believe it!

There is nothing to argue really... We like a challenging game, if you can't or don't want to play a challenging game you can use the easy settings.
 

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I don't see any coalition clowns in my thread. Where are the people who can defend them rationally? Come on, surely someone intelligent can take that side's banner and argue in the mechanic's favor in my thread, even if they don't believe it!
heveing meny enemy banner in peace scren make me felt powerful, bik and stronge nation, welcome back coalition warscore grinde i miset you
 

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There is nothing to argue really... We like a challenging game, if you can't or don't want to play a challenging game you can use the easy settings.
I like a challenging and rewarding game. Coalitions, as they are now, create a challenging barrier at first, but after you defeat it the first time it all becomes a boring barrier that forces you to fight long wars just to annex 3-4 provinces at a time. After 2 or 3 of these, there's no point in playing anymore.
 

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There is nothing to argue really... We like a challenging game, if you can't or don't want to play a challenging game you can use the easy settings.
I like a challenging game, too but I don't like insanely high AE penalties and stupid coalitions that once beaten don't reward you with anything. Coalitions and a challenging game have nothing in common and are two separate topics.
 

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Yes, stupidity is back. Enjoy.
 

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The AE in 1.5 is much better than in 1.4.2 but yeah I agree that coalitions could be improved a bit, but you're not meant to gain a lot of land via coalition wars, a white peace or one province is what I usually take, though I avoid coalition wars (well they sometimes come to me, and then I do my best to beat them back and get a white peace)
 

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There is nothing to argue really... We like a challenging game, if you can't or don't want to play a challenging game you can use the easy settings.

Unless you fail at reading comprehension, you have a lot to argue. The challenge isn't the question here. It's the plausibility, risk/reward, and slow late progression even when you beat them tat are central issues.

Throwing challenge fallacies into this equation is garbage. CC indeed. Coalition clowning. That has a nice ring to it.

heveing meny enemy banner in peace scren make me felt powerful, bik and stronge nation, welcome back coalition warscore grinde i miset you

Basically.
 

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Unless you fail at reading comprehension, you have a lot to argue. The challenge isn't the question here. It's the plausibility, risk/reward, and slow late progression even when you beat them tat are central issues.

Throwing challenge fallacies into this equation is garbage. CC indeed. Coalition clowning. That has a nice ring to it.



Basically.

Plausibility: check
Risk reward: not the point of coalition wars
Slow progression: that's the whole point, I was thinking the other day that I don't recall a single change in possessions driven by war in Western Europe until the treaty of Westphalia...

They were out in 1.4 and I did not complain, they are back own 1.5 and I with many rejoice, can you not play on easy and quit bitching like a child?
 

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Yeah they are back and they are better. At least, the distribution of AE is more logical and coherent (not just based on geographical distance), so the coalitions that form seem to make some sense. (You are not going to piss off Spain and Portugal for attacking Morocco, as in previous versions.)

The coalition WS/peace still needs improvement, but definitely better.

Playing on AI attitude of "hard" is definitely challenging. Large coalitions form quickly.
 

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They were out in 1.4 and I did not complain, they are back own 1.5 and I with many rejoice, can you not play on easy and quit bitching like a child?
It is funny that you keep telling people to play on easy, when in reality you're the one who finds coalitions challenging (Admitting as much yourself), while the people who want them nerfed are the people who find them so easy that they're really just a tedious obstacle that slow down gameplay.