- ARCHIVE - Miscellanea Unsorteous (Original Vault)

[PatMaster]

A Swedish noble named Wollmar Gyldenstierna request permission to speak.

Albeit a noble quest, the nobles of Sweden do not feel intrigued to send it's sons to die on the other side of the known world. We have indeed more nearby heretics, in my opinion!

 

[Martinus]

Philippe raises and makes a graceful bow towards Charles, the Duke of Orleans:

"Praise be to you, my good Duke and cousin, as indeed you speak with wisdom and sagacity, which are now a balm for my strained and troubled mind. Indeed, the more I listen to your words, the more I consider it unlikely that a man so good-hearted as you could have been entangled with the death of my beloved father. You have my compliments and growing respect, good cousin.

Indeed, my words were dictated by lust of revenge on the treacherous assailants and fear for the safety of my good subjects. Coupled with that however was a dismay and wrath, as before entering this most hallowed hall, I asked the Dauphin to grant me free passage, to which he replied that it shall be given only if England rescinds its claim on Maine! Pray tell me good and pious Cardinal Legate and you gracious cousin of Orleans, whether I see things correctly or perhaps need an interpreter, yet in my dialect I would call such a proposal a blackmail, preventing me from defending my land and subjects, by demanding concessions that not I, but my honourable brother England can only grant.

Hence, not to repeat this most dissapointing haggle, I instead ask you good cousin Orleans to grant me passage through your fair domains, so I could come to aid of my besieged subjects and reassure myself in considering you a man of honour and largesse worthy of the First Peer of France.

As for your proposal, good cousin, I must say that if I am not mistaken, you have studied the canon and roman law, in Sorbonne, perhaps, as your additions seem helpful and structured indeed. I agree wholeheartedly with one small correction, if you permit:

All Peers of France may demand military access, such an access not being unreasonably witheld, delayed or subjected to additional concessions but this access must be formally asked, on each occasion, to the peer holding the said fief to be trespassed unto, and given on each occasion by the peer holding the said fief trespassed unto, in all due respect of mutual trust, fief propriety, code of Christian chivarly and rules of feodality.

If we agree to this, I am willing to formally sign the treaty as well, good cousin."

 

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A horseman from th Golden Horde comes riding. He leaves his horse outside the court and enters. He bows deeply then delivers a message to the Emir.

"I have heard that the greeks threathens your nation with their army. Yes even with Golden Horde standards it is a large army, but it is merly a army of peasants. One Mongol archer would kill four of them, easily. I hope that you are not scared by their empty threats but instead insulted that their army would be able to hurt a faithful nation.

Signed Great Khan Ulugh Muhammad of the Golden Horde"

 

[Martinus]

To the Esteemed Sir Engelbrekt Engelbrektsson, Steward of the Mines of Bergslagen from Francois Langresse, Burgomeister of Dijon, Christian and friendly greetings.

Kind Sir,

Know that the Ducal mines of Alsace will be most interested in accomodating your kind offer and concluding a long lasting trade agreement between Sweden and Burgundy. His Grace's armories and smithies will gladly accept the ore of highest quality, in exchange providing you with gold and salt from our own mines.

In addition, in order to strenghten our commercial relationships, which are always a good prelude to friendship and mutual trust, our guilds wish to offer their Swedish brothers the finest Burgundian wines that are produced in the wineyards of Bourgogne and Franche-Comte. In exchange, the equally luxurious and famous Swedish furs would strike our fancy.

As for the details of this agreement, perhaps I could suggest the ducal port and center of trade in Antwerp as the focal point of this most beneficial relationship? The harbor is well prepared to load and unload ore, salt and gold, and bustles with merchants from the British Isles as well, who can offer, I am sure, additional contracts and deals. Indeed, as I am aware of your commercial ties with the merchants from the Kingdom of England who also bring their goods to Antwerp, it could be most convenient.

I can assure you, most kind Sir, that if this trade agreement proves beneficial for the Burgundian treasury, I shall personally consult His Grace the Duke to grant the Swedish merchants special privileges in this biggest trade center in the North.

I remain your humble servant,

By own hand at Dijon,

Francois Langresse, Bourgomeister of Dijon

 

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Rotund Cardinal smiles.

The papal delegate stirs. "My lord Charles of Orléans , you bring a good deal of well balanced and objective thought to this meeting. How refreshing."

"A little unfortunate that our friend from Brittany could not contain his sarcasm. For all voices should be heard for a balanced view when in council. Though his advise should have been contained to his liege lords ears alone."

"This issue with the Margrave of Baden troubles me. I have had no message from the pope warning me of this threat to Burgandy. So this must be a declaration of war that is without papal consent. That in itself is not amusing at all"

"This should not have come about at such a delicate time. If his Holiness had been informed by the Margrave of this intent, his advice would have been against it."

"However. My Duke of Burgundy you still rattle your sabre prematurely. Firstly Is this rabble a true threat to your dominion or just a flee on your noble body?"

"If this is truly a threat may I suggest that you ask the Dauphin NICELY and without threat for access? And your majesty, great Dauphin. Do you not feel this is a perfect chance to show that your goodwill and generosity is as great as the king of England and grant access this once without condition and in good faith?"

"If You all would swear on the good book that no treatury is to be done this would be a very positive step forward. If any of you break your oath on the good book then. Either would feal the wrath off god and his mighty hordes. Is that not security enough from traitorous behaviour from anyone that might?"

 

[Martinus]

Philippe raises, with a gentle smile:

"I thank you, Your Eminence for this most kind and wise response. Indeed it is wisdom and piety that we need most in this most turbulent of negotiations.

Albeit, with your permission, I humbly beg Your Excellence to answer the following, truly hypothetical question, so that I may have the will of His Holiness explained to me fully.

If at this hour I entered into an alliance with, say, King of Castille and while I negotiated peace here, the said Castillan would have attacked the French territories, who would be seen as the violator of the Truce of God? Noone? The King of Castille? My person? Or perhaps Castille, me and indeed all my allies, as it is most likely that while I have entered the said alliance alone, my English brother would have been aware of it and cherished the thought, while formally remaining no part of this conspiracy.

I beg Your Eminence to answer who, in such circumstance, would bring on himself the rightful wrath of God."

 

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a soldier arrives at the Goldenhorde with a message from Muhammed II

"I truly thank you for your support and the Evil Greeks will never scare me."

 

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Charles spoke again.

"Your holiness,

I have received word from Napoli. Her Majesty, Giovanna II wishes to offer her services by communicating with any nations(forgive me Mart, I broke the nation rule ) south of Italy for you and relaying the message to Rome from Taranto."

 

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A rider from the Aq-Qoyunlu arrives.

"We have received word of the treats against you. The Khan sends word not to bother with the Trebizond matter. Our preparations are finished and our armies are already moving. Soon their will be no Trebizond to make peace with. And never mind the threats of Constantinople. Time has passed them by. The spend their time dreaming of the Roman Empire and they will soon be forgotten.

 

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France is not related with Switzerland or Baden. We wanted before, but they chose to go their own way and now it does not concern us anymore.

 

[Martinus]

Philippe turns to the Dauphin with a smile:

"But my Prince, I never said you are related to Switzerland or Baden. I just wish His Excellence answered this question so that I knew whether if my ally committed such an action, either I or he would have been chastised or even excommunicated."

 

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"Why don't you end the war between France,England and Burgundy.
Do peace. Do as the will of God is. To reach peace.
Why not
Picardie to England.
Crown to France
Non Agression pact.
What more do you want ? Do not let the sinn of Greed clouden your judgement.
"

 

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A letter arrives from the Preceptor of Provence, Guerin du Montaque, from the Priory at Saint-Gilles.

"My countryman, the Grand Commander of the Order, Pierre Raymond, has requested that I forward his letter to the Archbishop of Besancon, Cardinal Odo. It is inclosed within."

 

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"Maine cannot be ceded to England for many reasons. First, the province, either called Maine or Anjou, always constituted an independant domain from Normandy, Brittany, etc. When Henry Plantagenet rose as king of England, Anjou had rightful counts. The king had to conquer the province from the count of Anjou, but it never merged with Normandy. The inhabitants of Anjou did not recognize Henry Plantagenet as rightful count, and the king of France, Philippe Auguste, retook it. Since this, Maine was always ruled by french princes. King Philippe VI of France was count of Maine and his son Jean II gave the title of count to his son, Louis I, grandfather of the actual count of Provence. The count of Provence is also duke of Anjou and count of Maine and does not have the right to dissolve them. He was not directly involved in this part of the war and there is no reason why England should receive this province. Keeping the lands they conquered before and adding Picardie, all being core provinces of France, is clearly enough, as stated by the Holy Father.

 

[Martinus]

Philippe leans over and whispers to Thomas, smiling lightly:

"Dear brother, while I greatly appreciate the efforts of our good friends and mediators, I cannot escape the notion that perhaps the Princes of Christendom have forgotten something that may look like a triffle, but when you look at it has some slight importance, mainly that we have won this damn war."

 

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Thomas yawns slightly, as the dauphan speaks:

"First of all, we have clear ties through the House of Anjou. As Provence has cast its lot with your forces, it is subject to pay for their role in this war. Are you inferring that had the situation been reversed, your allies would have gained nothing? You have heard our demands and they are in line with the Holy Father's original suggestion for peace. Now good dauphin, I tire of your constant stalling of negotiations. Our demands are most generous and compassionate as they are. I do not understand the term 'core' province, good dauphin, but our Norman possesions date back to the time of King William. Once again, our proposed treaty is most benevolent to you and the points are non negotiable. Perhaps you should have accepted peace when offered at St. Nazaire instead of choosing war. Now that blood has been shed, the terms are slightly harsher. You risk having much harsher terms imposed upon you, should you sabotage this treaty. This is not a threat, just fact. Should more bloodshed arise from your actions, reparations will have to compensate."

 

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April 29th, 1419 in Napoli.

The Queen had called the council for a meeting to update her knoledge on the current situations. When they had all arrived in the chamber, she spoke.

"Welcome advisors.." she first turned to James, head of forgien diplomacy.
"Have the French and English signed peace yet?"
"No, your Majesty, but they have signed a truce"
"And have the Mamlukes responded yet?"
"No, your Majesty."

She then turned to Armand, Grand Admiral of the Navy.

"Have your patrols spotted any Mamluke naval forces?"
"No, your Majesty, not yet."
"Good, and what are the numbers of our current navy."
"Not many..not enough to go on the offensive."

She then looked to Erick, Grand commander of the army.

"And what of the army?"
"Roughly one thousand men, your Majesty."

"It seems we will not be able to wage war against the Mamlukes. There will be a white peace."

 

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Emperor Dennis,

You have not been an active enough player. Please begin to contribute to the game immediately, or Gelre will soon become NPC.

Thankyou,

Josef

 

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Cid,

You have not been an active enough player. Please begin to contribute to the game immediately, or Savoy will soon become NPC.

Thankyou,

Josef

 

[LUDWIG]

Albert rises to his feet and coughs to make himself heard.
"Forgive me my lords but I feel compelled to address this gathering.
Helvetia and Baden have formally been asked to stand down as their actions are most cowardly and base.
In support of the noble House de Bourgogne Austria stands reads to make war upon her enemies.
Therefore Duke Philip should not fear for his lands for they will be carefully watched while he is otherwise engaged.

I am present to honour the generousity of our hostess and her Liege Duke Philip. Alas the Empire of Charlemagne can be of little help during these discussions. I am in awe of the patience and mercy of the English King. I know not how he stays so calm and reasoned but I wish I possessed the knowledge of so great a power.
From my reading of your offers to the French Dauphin I am amazed this entire despute hasn't been resolved in a swift flurry of strokes on the parchment.

In defence of the brave Duke Philip perhaps the good Cardinal would accept that these are tense times and sometimes the strain makes men less like themselves. I will vouch for the Duke as a good and pius man of God. You have stated the Holy Father has his hands tied on this issue good Cardinal and we shall have to accept that. I believe the good Duke was merely enquiring as to what other measures the Holy Father desired from those in attendance.

I am astounded the Dauphan is so hostile to the English King.
A man who's armies have been routed would normally be a much more willing to discuss terms. I would urge the Dauphin not to let pride get in the way of saving his country from further ruin.
Make a peace now and you can always seek to make new treaties when the tension has cleared."