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Baron von Schwartzshloß rises,

"Wilkommen, Your Grace," he says, addressing the newly arrived Bishop von Nathusius, "It is good to see my Count's neighbours represented at the Diet hall."

The Baron addresses Leonard Fourner,

"Your Excellency, the vehemence of your cynicism towards the new Federation surprises me. True, I find myself somewhat suspicious of it's real nature... but an Empire? I think perhaps not."

"I would suggest that, if anything, it is an alliance or league of nations, which the King of England has cunningly hidden behind such gregarious and seemingly progressive terms as 'commonwealth' and 'federation'."

"I have read a copy of the Federation's policies and they do make for interesting reading... But while the King of England has reached into his nation's past to the Roman Empire of old's republican structure of consuls and such notions, I think his Federation is little more than an alliance, albeit a very ambitious and well-worded one."

"Should we blame England for wishing to promote it's own interests? Hardly, for do we not ourselves strive daily to strengthen our own Holy Roman Empire? If the King of England were bold enough to cast aside the trappings of commonwealth and empire and declare the group of nations of which he is a leader an honest, down-to-earth alliance, I for one should have no problem with it, for at least we as an empire and France, too should know where we stand."

The Baron notices Sir Andrew's rigid self-control,

"My Lord," The Baron addresses him, "I do not think the Diet wished you to remain silent, but merely for you and your French counterpart to respect our customs and protocol. I respect your council and I humbly ask you to provide us with it."

With a bow to SIr Rowan and in turn to the Steward and the Emperor, the Baron sits.
 

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The Count von Eppstein addresses Sir Andrew.

"Though for now, you might find that caution is the better part of valour."

He turns toward the Normandian lady.

"You had ought speak well, for much rides upon your words."

Finally, turning towards the Diet.

"While I have come to agree with the idea that there can be no "Queen of Normandie" within the Treaty of Arras, I have no desire to involve this great and august Empire in a war over an English fief. I would advise that we suggest that Giovanna make herself "Queen in Normandie," and have herself appointed Regent or some other title over Normandie by the English King. Certainly that would solve our principle problems."
 

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Sir Munsford rises to speak.

"Count von Eppstein,
Although your words are noble and of good intent, they still do not solve the matter. For to make Giovanna a "Queen of Normandie" or the Regent will still make the Treaty of Arras void. For as I said it was made clear that Normandie would be made as a Duchy not a kingdom. Since it is only a Duchy it will have either a Duke or Duchess rule over it. Since the Treaty also states the the King of England shall be the rightfull and only Duke of Normandie that states that only he can rule there. So in placing Giovanna on the throne in the first place he broke the treaty. But since many of us wish to end this part of the aurgument then lets do this. We should declare the treaty of Arras void and no longer binding to the nations it was signed by, then and only then can Giovanna assume any kind of rulership in Normandy. Although I myself shall never forgive them for treating a document witnessed and agreed upon by are August Emperor like it was nothing. Also I must add that Normandie is no longer an English Fief for just the other day they released it from vassalation giving them their freedom."

Sir Munsford sits back down.
 

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Jeanne spoke.

"M'lords..

On the matter of Giovanna's title as ruler of Normandie, it shall be fixed as soon as a solution is found.

On the matter of the Federation's alleged threat to the most Holy Roman Empire and France. The federation is by no means meant to threaten anyone, but should war come, we would defend each other and also promote trade and diplomacy between it's members. It is not an Empire, as the Holy Roman Empire is recognized by all members of the federation as the Only Catholic Empire.

Burgrave of Brandenburg, I will make sure to tell Giovanna to send only males next time when she wishes to adress the diet..."

With that, Jeanne left.
 

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*Bishop von Nathusius rises and turns to Baron von Schwartzshloß, at least temporarly ignoring the issue over Normandie:*

Although I too do recognize that that the Federation is not an Empire, I fear that it may become one. If a future, more ambitous King of England were ever to gain the throne, I would fear for the safety of the Empire with all my heart. I feel that measures should be taken now to limit England's power over her vassals, lest England take advantage of her power over them in the future.

He turns to the rest of the Diet

But I would like to point out to the other members of the Diet that von Schwartzshloß has a very good point when he states that England has a full right to further themselves to the best of their abilities. I would like to add to that point that perhaps we should try to gain strength in our ourselves before we attempt to limit England's, lest we find an opponent in the future that we cannot limit, perhaps even a Heathen power...
 

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"If the Empire doesn't want the people of Holland to life" shouted HJ "then i won't be suprissed if in a couple of month's Holland is an empty country. But i won't trouble you anymore!" and hj walked out the room.
 

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Albert turns to face the assembled Lords.

"This development in the west is a very serious matter.
However rather then declaring outright war on them I would like to attempt to learn more about them.
Inform the English King that I would like to see detailed information regarding the make up of this Federation.
For now it appears to be an Empire and yet not an Empire.
This is greatly troubling and we shall have to ensure the spectre of war does not haunt the Empire in years to come.
For now the Empire and the Holy Church shall need to negotiate with the English King , to ensure our concerns are addressed and to prevent the situation from getting out of control.
The Empire of Charlemagne is mighty indeed and her power shall be uncontested. This Federation has the potential to cause great conflict therefore I shall need to learn more about their motives.
At this time Imperial nations are advised not to go to war until such time as the English have had sufficient time to inform us of their plans."

Turning to face the Dutch representatives.
"The matter has been resolved you belong to Burgundy and the Empire. Do not try my patience whelp for if the mightiest of nations tread with respect within these halls rest assured your cause is not helped by your petulance. "
 

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The Cound Adolf von Eppstein leans toward the Baron von Schwarzschloss. His voice drips with sarcasm as he speaks.

An empty Holland... Wouldn't that be a shame?
 

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A man of Noble blood enters the Imerial Diet. He bows for the Emperor and beg for permission to speak.

"Dear, Noble and Victorious Emperor og the Holy Roman Empire. I am sent here by My Lord, Duke Friedrich I of Saxe-Wittenberg to represent him in this Holy Diet. My name is Count Johann Jacob von Winkelstien, and I am the son of Count Fritz Jacob von Winkelstien, Second cousin to the father of the Present Elector of Saxony. My Lord wishes to infom you that he is forever faithful to the Elected Emperor and that He will rule in the name of the True Catholic God. He will try to uphold peace with in the Empire to every price. We hope that our relation will the Emperor, you, will stay this way or better . Thank you."

Once again the Count bows.
 

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Trumpets are heard as Bohemian representative Count Jan Luzatsky to Diet return after long absence, he bows to the Emperor:
"Cardinal Skoropatsky ordered me to resume my duty at the Diet. I assume that your Imperial Majesty won't have any objections to that. Our ambassador to your court will resume his duties shortly as well."
 

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Paul von Russdorf takes the word

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We are of course sorry to hear that Duke Sigismund is dead, you have our condoleances..May I ask, how did he die?
 
Baron von Schwartzshloß stands,

"Indeed, Herr von Russdorf, this is most unsettling."

The Baron addresses the Luxembourgian delegate,

"Herr... uhm, Your Excellency..." The Baron flounders, wishing that the Luxembourgian had introduced himself by name, "I find it hard to believe that Sigismund, who showed great promise and presence of mind, took his own life."

"This is a great loss to the Empire - not just to his native Luxembourg."
 

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Count Johann Jacob von Winkelstien who had heard the words of the Palatinate Baron replies.

- I agree with you that it sounds strange, I surely am confused. But, I tink his newly dead wife can be the explanation. Earier romour have told me that the great Duke has been strange ever after her death. The Love to a woman can drive a man, even a Duke into madness. Only God knows why.
 
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