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Originally posted by Das Heer
In addition Genoa signs another non-aggresion pact with the Golden Horde and the Ottoman Empire. Arnou please put this on the treaty page once Neil and driftwood make it official.

DH

and i agree
 

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Elchi Ozzegyn, the Timurids representant in konya leaves the conclave for a while. He asks the guards where the Emir of Karaman is for the moment. The guards gently responds that he is inspecting the palace guard. The Elchi thanks the guard and goes to the courtyard, where the guard stands. Ignoring the marching there the Elchi walks straight up to the Emir. He bows then begins to speak.

"The Timurid empire needs to be allowed to walk through your land to aid the Jihad against the Venetians. Dsakuu Jambyn will help Bars in Ragusa, and hopefully more."

Karaman look favourably on the request as it involves the Jihad and expect help and good relations in the future with their Muslim brothers.


Timerids gain RoP in karaman
 

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The the 700m wide straights at the Bosphorous and the Hellespont (Dardanelles) are chained and blockaded by ships.Massive fortresses with the new Gunnys instaled, tower over the thick obstruction.The inacuracy of the cannons "Gunnys" is compensated for by the existence of the chain, that stops all shipping long enough to be pounded to kindling..
The sea of Marmara is under total control of the Ottomans and the Golden Horde. The Golden horn is impassable unless you have RoP from the Ottomans and the Golden Horde.
This also triggers a trade embargo event against Venice.


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Trade Embargo
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The Ottomans and the Golden Horde have placed an embargo against Venice

They have closed the Bosphorus and the Hellespont to all Venician traders and all others require permition to pass .

A 4 was thrown.

Good effect (-1 Tech and -1 econ to Venice for duration.)



1. Ineffectual and Hard to maintain. (-1 Morale to blockading nation for 1 turn)(-1 econ if to continue.)

2. Ineffectual (No vissible effect to trade)

3. Limited effect (-1 Tech for blockades subject for duration.)

4. Good effect (-1 Tech and -1 econ for blockades subject for duration.)
 

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For many years, out of the wilderness there came shaman of the old beliefs, bringing healing, fire and the word of the ancient gods to Siberia. They are listened to. The word of Islam slips into "Lip service".

After the death of Temuska, the Khan's brother, the majority of Siberians turn their backs on Allah, because they believe he has abandoned them by killing one of their best warrior. The old gods and their shaman preach a return to their ways. They peasants partially destroy Tobolsks principal Mosque, and some turn Pagan openly. Seeing this, Baraq Khan changes his state religion to paganism in a desperate attempt to keep the favour of his people. He is no more a Muslim, but will try to prevent any harm against Muslims from Siberia.

This triggers events.

1. Pagans are burnt on sight in a vicious backlash. The Khan is dethroned by revolt.( % provinces revolt. Rounded up. -1 Tech -1 Morale)

2. Pagans are chased and stoned the Khan is forgiven as grief must be effecting him(-1 Tech -1 Morale)

3. Tensions run high between the Pagans and the Faithful of Islam. .(-1 Morale)

4. The Faithful of Islam believe that this paganism has been part of their culture in this region for so long they can live with it. (No effect)

5. The Faithful of Islam believe that this paganism has been part of their culture in this region for so long they can live with it. Not only that but secret worshipers from other nations emigrate here. (+1 Morale)

6. The Faithful of Islam believe that this paganism has been part of their culture in this region for so long they can live with it. Not only that but embrace it, and secret worshipers from other nations emigrate here. (+1 Tech +1 Morale)

SIBERIA is now PAGAN.

A 5 is thrown

The Faithful of Islam in Siberia believe that this paganism has been part of their culture in this region for so long they can live with it. Not only that but secret worshipers from other nations emigrate here.

(+1 Morale to Siberia)
 

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TRADE EVENT

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The leaders of certain trade organisations reap the rewards of their hard work. Bremen (Hansa) and Pommern are considered this years centre of Trade in the region.

(-1 modifier for both, for good RP )


1. Trade routes bring in good revenue for the Nation this year.........(+1 econ, +1Tech +1 Morale for 1 year .)

2. Good trade raises the morale of the populous and artisans......... (+1 Morale +1Tech for 1 year )

3 . Good trade aids the artisans........... (+1Tech for 1 year )

4. Traders break even.

5. Pirates and Bandits took all the profit

6. Bad losses by traders. Trade agreements collapse . (-1 Morale for 1 year. )

Bremen roll a 4 (-1 mod) = 3

Pommern roll a 3 (-1 mod) = 2

Good trade aids the artisans of Bremen (+1Tech for 1 year )END OCT 1427

Good trade raises the morale of the populous and artisans of Pommern (+1 Morale +1Tech for 1 year )END OCT 1427
 
Originally posted by Arnou
Is there a difference between the Conclave of Devout Nations thread and the new Caliph of Islam theard. If there isn't the conclave will be closed soon.
Arnou,

Think of the Conclave of Devout Nations thread as comparable to the HRE Diet thread. The Caliph of Islam thread's Christian counterpart is the Court of His Holiness in Rome. :)
 
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Sunni Islam is not at all like the medieval Catholic church, and so I give you the:

Organization of the Islamic Faith

The Caliph - The Caliph sits as the greatest scholar and priest in all of the lands. A descendant of the Caliphs of Baghdad, the Caliph is a hereditary position, and should a line completely die out, then the greatest of all scholars in the lands, the ulamas, must gather to select the next closest line. In practice, the Caliph's powers are rather limited, since he leads a pack of absolute monarchs, many of whom are very strong-willed.

The ulamas - The ulamas are great scholars, with enormous influence in their own realms. When the Caliph desires council from other mortal men, then he summons these wisemen to a conclave. Generally, he will call a Conclave before he declares a ruler apostate, or calls a jihad, although there have been exceptions for flagrant cases. Should a Caliph die without issue, then it falls to the ulamas to divine who is to succeed him. Each Sunni muslim nation has one ulama. Also, the holiest of cities, with their great circles of clerical scholars also recieve an ulama. Those cities are:
Mecca
Medina
Astrakhan
Jerusalem

Note: Baghdad is not among the holy cities since Timur killed everyone in it, and the great scholars have gone to reside in Astrakhan with the Caliph. So, should it come up, every Sunni nation will get one ulama, except for the Hedjaz, which has three, the Golden Horde, which has two, and Austria will also recieve one, since they control Jerusalem.
 
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The Palatinate forgives the debt of Russia to the Palatinate.

Yes, I know this is irregular, but I've checked it out with JG.
 

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Ok, stats updated. A few things as usual.

Txini: Normally I won't do this, but I noticed that your seamil is not up to full starting levels. If you want me to, I can spend the one eco to bring it up to starting levels.

Lud, others: Austria's stats were a bit off. Austria should have had one more turn of regeneration, the turn immediately after the plague. If anyone has any disagreements with it, pm me.

PGD: Sibir's event was never given an expiration date. Just checking to make sure it was not a permanent morale.

Arnou, when you are doing updating your stats, drop me a pm and I will have Josef clear the thread up to this post. btw, great job on the treaties, etc. I greatly appreciate it.:)

I think that's everything. If I missed anything, let me know.

Thanx.:)
 

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Pommern and Bremen have the power to DOW for Gelre untill tommorrow
 

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Josef: Arnou gave me the thumbs up so you can clear the thread up to this post at your convenience. Thanx much.:)
 
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