ARCHIVE - GRAND LEDGER (24-08-03 to 12-11-04)

[Alex_pharaoh]

Ok, once my Khanate was annexed by the Timurid Empire, I guess it is time to move on to Genoa! To the glory!

(Btw, I am posting one last post in my court as the Uzbeks, which is an Epilogue).

EDIT: Epilogue is complete. I finnished with the Uzbeks.

 

[unmerged(17500)]

I confirm.

IC:

"And well, here comes a new age, for my legacy will live on!" -Alxud Khan.

Can i just get a title for this treaty please

 

[Hamilcar]

Can i just get a title for this treaty please

"Peace Accord between the agha Khan and the Khan of the Uzbekhs."

 

[unmerged(8054)]

Ok, once my Khanate was annexed by the Timurid Empire, I guess it is time to move on to Genoa! To the glory!

(Btw, I am posting one last post in my court as the Uzbeks, which is an Epilogue).

EDIT: Epilogue is complete. I finnished with the Uzbeks.

Very well. Better luck in Italia than in your last nation.


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[unmerged(17500)]

Wanted a clarification on RoP. What happens when a nation gives your RoP and then goes NPC? Do I need an event?

 

[unmerged(8915)]

Wanted a clarification on RoP. What happens when a nation gives your RoP and then goes NPC? Do I need an event?

yes. in fact, you need an event for any RoP through an npc nation. so i suppose after a realm has gone npc, you would need an event granting you RoP.

keep in mind, RoP through NPCs is very rarelly given and the fact that you have a fleet and transport your armies automatically excludes you from being such an RoP being granted. JG was very clear on the point. and i think Bz agrees.

 

[unmerged(7347)]

yes. in fact, you need an event for any RoP through an npc nation. so i suppose after a realm has gone npc, you would need an event granting you RoP.

keep in mind, RoP through NPCs is very rarelly given and the fact that you have a fleet and transport your armies automatically excludes you from being such an RoP being granted. JG was very clear on the point. and i think Bz agrees.

Hmm doesnt that crash with what the rule/policy says about treaties. That treaties is valid unless both the signing parts goes NPC!? Often a treaty can include giving RoP and as I have noticed, the Nat stats list´s valid RoPs until both nations becomes NPC:s or some one cancel them.

Perhaps there isnt any contradiction in this, if RoP is cancelled first when both nations becomes NPC:s, as I have understod that the policy for treaties is there for creating a more stable game and to assure having long term treaties.

 

[unmerged(17500)]

Hmm doesnt that crash with what the rule/policy says about treaties. That treaties is valid unless both the signing parts goes NPC!? Often a treaty can include giving RoP and as I have noticed, the Nat stats list´s valid RoPs until both nations becomes NPC:s or some one cancel them.

Perhaps there isnt any contradiction in this, if RoP is cancelled first when both nations becomes NPC:s, as I have understod that the policy for treaties is there for creating a more stable game and to assure having long term treaties.

Well considering that I control the RoP, I have to clerify.

Treaties that have RoP mean nothing without the players both stating outright that the mechanical effect is RoP. That list is only changed when a player says, specifically I give RoP or I take it away. What treaties say is meaningless without the mechanical effects, this is why I published guidelines for nat stats treaties posts, I want people to seriously follow them becaues they make life so much easier.

 

[HJ Tulp]

But IIRC writing the mechanical effects wasn't required when I first eh fell into this RPG. What about the mechanical effects of then?

 

[unmerged(17500)]

But IIRC writing the mechanical effects wasn't required when I first eh fell into this RPG. What about the mechanical effects of then?

The guidelines stand as per the announcements thread. It isn't the responsibility of the treaties mod to decifer what mechanical effects players wish to apply, that is why I want the clarification and thusly the guidelines.

 

[unmerged(7347)]

Well considering that I control the RoP, I have to clerify.

Treaties that have RoP mean nothing without the players both stating outright that the mechanical effect is RoP. That list is only changed when a player says, specifically I give RoP or I take it away. What treaties say is meaningless without the mechanical effects, this is why I published guidelines for nat stats treaties posts, I want people to seriously follow them becaues they make life so much easier.

Yes, that I understand and I also think that the guidelines announced are very good ones. Im just somewhat confused as it at one point is said that only when both nations goes NPC there agreements is cancelled, when it is just now stated (above) that RoP is cancelled when the nation is NPC. So, as RoP often is part of an agreement as a game mechanical effect, does it still stays in effect until both the signing nations goes NPC or when just one of it does? Or, if understanding your latest statement correctly, does it simply stay in effect regardless of NPC or PC, until its specificly stated as cancelled?

 

[unmerged(8054)]

Official ruling.

RoP is only granted when it is listed as part of the official mechanical effects of a treaty.

RoP remains untill both nations go NPC, untill one nation breaks it, or untill removed by an event.

Thank you
/Bz

 

[unmerged(3236)]

I would like to get the role of Huang Jie, sister of the dead Aghakhan of the al-agta khanate (now called: timurid empire)

she will have no national ties (to start with) but will mostly move around the mamelukes, oman and the timurid empire

 

[unmerged(6629)]

Lots of people have told me about the grim situation for the Muslims and asked me to join and now they've finaly managed to get me back here.

May I play Oman again with my old court?

 

[unmerged(8054)]

Lots of people have told me about the grim situation for the Muslims and asked me to join and now they've finaly managed to get me back here.

May I play Oman again with my old court?

Sure.
I'll reactivate it as soon as this is posted.


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I would like to get the role of Huang Jie, sister of the dead Aghakhan of the al-agta khanate (now called: timurid empire)

she will have no national ties (to start with) but will mostly move around the mamelukes, oman and the timurid empire

I doubt there'll be any kind of trouble, but as she is the sister of a deceased HoS, I'd prefer if you secured permission from the new Timurid player before I grant this. Once that is done, however, I'd be glad to grant this permission.

 

[unmerged(18481)]

I give Longinus permission to play Antonio di Savoia in his upcoming posts of a Joachim-Antonio interaction.

 

[unmerged(9167)]

As I have got time and my schedule have been resolved, I would like to return to Aragon if that is ok.

If I am accepted, could I start a new court?

 

[unmerged(8054)]

As I have got time and my schedule have been resolved, I would like to return to Aragon if that is ok.

If I am accepted, could I start a new court?

Yes on both accounts.

Glad to have you back on board.


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[Alex_pharaoh]

I have given permition to SaT to RP a certain Gino Fieschi who is currently in Piemonte for his upcoming post or posts.

SaT should confirm.

 

[unmerged(17500)]

I'm going to take a couple of dats off...I just need to clear my head, from paranoid obsession that this game has become for me

That includes MSN guys...please..thanks

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added the MSN