- ARCHIVE - GRAND LEDGER (21-09-02 to 09-10-02)

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Non-Mechanical Treaties Yet to Be Organised
Poland-Lithuania-Moldovia Black Sea Trade Agreement

Article 1 - Trade Tarrifs
All Polish, Lithuanian and Moldovian merchants in any of the three members nations shall be treated as local merchants and shall not have any additional trade tarrifs or taxes placed upon them.

Article 2 - Competition
Merchants of the three participating nations shall take precendence over any merchants of nations not members of this Agreement when buying or selling to the state.

Article 3 - Centers of Trade
Poland, Lithuania and Moldovia shall seek to redirect the main brunt of their trading to the provinces of Podalia, Jedisan and Bujak to ensure that the other members of this treaty receive the maximum benefit from it possible.

Article 4 - Timeframe of Redirection of Trade
The redirection of trade mentioned in Article 3 shall take place before one year has passed after the signing of thie Agreement.


-Arnou

 

[Longinus]

following Papal orders, Pommern DoV Ottoman Porta

 

[driftwood]

BA, Albania isn't one of my provinces, and I owe 2 eco to Aden.

The Ottoman Empire gets tired of nations DoWing just to prevent eco regeneration and DoWs Venice.

driftwood

 

[BusterBunny]

Burgundy loans 1 eco to Genoa.

 

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Originally posted by BusterBunny
Burgundy loans 1 eco to Genoa.

Genoa accepts the loan.

 

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Papal decree

The crusade is lifted from the Mamalukes and a white peace offered.

 

[Auspend]

Wuerttemberg loans 1 eco to the Papal States, in the oh so trustworthy hands of Cardinal Corleone.

 

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The papal states accept the loan from Wuerttemberg.

Thank you my son

 

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The Mamelukes confirm white-peace with the Papal States.

 

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• BATTLE-ORDERS TEMPLATE

Nation: The realm you play. You may not issue battle orders for other realms unless you have explicit permission from the moderators.

Enemy: (If you are attacking) The realm which controls the province you are attacking.

Province: The name of the province to which you are moving your forces and the amount of forces you're sending.

My stats: Copy and paste the national stats of your realm from the national statistics thread.

Expenditures: Note here the expenditure of any econ you have on land-mil, sea-mil, morale or tech

Right of Passage: If your troops have a long distance to travel, give details of how you are routing the movement and full details, with as much proof as possible of any Right of Passage agreements you need to reach your destination.

DoW: Declarations of War posts in the National Stats thread are your key to being able to issue battle orders each week.

You must include a cut-and-pasted copy of the DoW post, which is only valid if it is posted clearly within the National Statistics thread that began the war in which you are involved including two things:

1. A copy of the post in which either you declared war, or war was declared upon you.

2. The real-time date when the DoW post was submitted. (Do not bother with the exact time, as the forum clock is a bit dodgy).

 

[Damocles]

Lithuania gives Right of Passage to it's Polish brothers.

 

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The Mamelukes and Genoa sign a white peace, with Yoghurts approval.

Also, Arnou please add this new trade deal with between the Mamelukes and Genoa on the page. It can replace the other trade deals we have, with confirmation from Yoghurt again:

Genoan-Mameluke Trade and Mutual Freindship Pact

Article I Genoan merchants will be the sole carrier of Egyptian grain, heading for Western Europe (West of Sicily) before any other merchants. In short the Mamelukes is not able to sign trade agreements, reffering this trade with other nations in Western Europe (West of Sicily)

Article II Genoan merchants can buy Egyptian grain for 10 % off market price.

Article III Mameluke merchants can bid first on olive oil from Genoan merchants heading to Africa and the Middle East before any other merchant.

Article Mameluke merchants will be the sole carrier of Genoan olive oil, heading for Africa or the Middle East before any other merchants. In short Genoa is not able to sign trade agreements, reffering this trade with other nations in Africa and the Middle East.

Article IV Mameluke merchants can buy the olive oil for 10% off market price.

Article V A trade house will be built in Genoa for mameluke merchants, and they will have their own section of docks to smooth commerce.

Article VI A trade house will be built in Alexandria for Genoan merchants, and they will have their own section of docks to smooth commerce.

Article VII Genoa is allowed having a representative, skilled in commerce, at the Court of the Sultan, thus promoting further understanding between Genoa and the Mamelukes.

Article VIII The Mamelukes is allowed having a representative, skilled in commerce, at the Court of the Doge, thus promoting further understanding between Genoa and the Mamelukes.

Article IX Genoa promis to look fauvorable upon requests of loans from the Mamelukes, but do however not pledge to grant such a request. A loan granted shall, of course, not be used against Genoa or her allies.

Article X The Mamelukes promis to look fauvorable upon requests of loans from Genoa, but do however not pledge to grant such a request. A loan granted shall, of course, not be used against the Mamelukes or its allies.

Article XI Goods that are in the port of Alexandria that have originated from India are to be soley carried by Genoan merchants when the goods is heading for Western Europe (West of Sicily). In short the Mamelukes is not able to sign trade agreements, reffering this trade with other nations in West Europe (West of Sicily).

Article XIII Genoan seafarers and merchants will now be viewed as "locals" and allowed to visit and trade in all ports of the Mameluke Sultanate. They will pay no foreign tarrifs our taxes that other nations pay. But will pay the standard allowance that Mameluke merchants pay.

Article XIV Mameluke seafarers and merchants will now be viewed as "locals" and allowed to visit and trade in all ports of the Genoan territory. They will pay no foreign tarrifs our taxes that other nations pay. But will pay the standard allowance that Genoan merchants pay.

Article XV Genoa will now grant the Mamelukes right of passage through ALL Genoan lands.

Article XVI The Mamelukes will now grant right of passage to Genoa.

Article XVII Genoa will grant muslim pilgrimages to travel through Genoan territory and to visit holy sites located in thoose territories.

 

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The Mamelukes signs white-peace with Genoa and also signs the "Genoa - Mameluke Mutual Friendship Pact" with Genoa

 

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B.A.

I saw that Aden was in war. I know that Celt supported me when the Papal states DoW the Mamelukes and DoW the Papal States in the Nat stats, but he never did it in the Popes Court. That and the fact that the Mamelukes and the Pope signed peace, wouldnt it be correct to lift the “war status” from Aden? I will also talk with Celt about it.

 

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If we have a NPC vassal we cant annex them right?

 

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Das Heer

If we have a NPC vassal we cant annex them right?

As a general rule. Correct. There are the VERY rare exceptions though. But the rule normaly is you can't even war with NPC's. So that methods out, and diplomatic annexations a neer impossible.

Just because it's your vassal don't meen it's all yours Them vassals can be a lot of trouble.

Reb

 

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Moldovia

Alright gents I've made a choice, I'm going to try my hand at Moldovia if the mods'll let me.

Sorry Lud but I think ruling my own country even thuogh it's a lot smaller will be more enjoyable, thanks for the offer though.

 

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Re: Moldovia

Originally posted by nuffy
Alright gents I've made a choice, I'm going to try my hand at Moldovia if the mods'll let me.

Sorry Lud but I think ruling my own country even thuogh it's a lot smaller will be more enjoyable, thanks for the offer though.

Hi, Nuffy, welcome back to the game.

Here's the re-inscription drill, just to refresh your memory. Altogether, now!:

Please once again visit the National Statistics thread and make a post informing our resident Nat Stats man Bloody American what your new nation is and also what name you have chosen for it's head of state. Now you're ready to post your stupendous court thread!

Please also adopt the avatar of the realm you've been granted, to help other players to recognise which nation you're now playing.

Cheers,

Josef

 

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Hey BA, I'm back again and taking over as Moldovia

 

[driftwood]

Arnou - clarification on the Orthodox Crusade. It's not against all Muslims, only against Mongols.

This includes Golden Horde, Uzbeks, Khazaks, Siberians, the Timurids I suppose, and any other hordes I've forgotten.

This excludes the Ottoman Empire, the Hedjaz, the Mamluks, Aden, Oman, Algiers, etc.

driftwood