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Hey josef...i hope this isnt spam but I think that you missed an application from Marquis de Said for Aquitane. I noticed you posted after him but didnt approve.
weighing in on the placement of troops...I think that there should be some exceptions for places like england...so that they dont have to load people on to ships to get to normandy...but so long as a nation has all its land in one place it should be in the capital
weighing in on the placement of troops...I think that there should be some exceptions for places like england...so that they dont have to load people on to ships to get to normandy...but so long as a nation has all its land in one place it should be in the capital
Euh, just wanna make something fair here.
I cannot Jihad, I am not Muslim. I am Pagan and have my +1 moral boost for the event, but that's it.
Kub
I cannot Jihad, I am not Muslim. I am Pagan and have my +1 moral boost for the event, but that's it.
Kub
EVENT
The current economy of France is suffering from a devaluation of currency, due to extensive loans and beaurocratic coruption.Although the loan responsibilities were transferred to southern regions of France, the unpaid monies made their way back into the French economy, causing mass-inflation. The unbalanced and unfortunate way that the Treasurys agents run afairs causes lower quality Metals to be used in the mint. Flooding the market with poor quality coins that are hardly any use abroad.
INFLATION
It will cost France 2 econ to perform any act that would cost 1 econ otherwise. For the purpose of loans, 1 econ from states not affected by inflation is worth 2 econ from France. (Duration 2 years. End July 1429 )
* Piemonte's loans are wiped out .
* Provence, Tuscany and Auvergne should have their current econ reset to starting level for their next players
The current economy of France is suffering from a devaluation of currency, due to extensive loans and beaurocratic coruption.Although the loan responsibilities were transferred to southern regions of France, the unpaid monies made their way back into the French economy, causing mass-inflation. The unbalanced and unfortunate way that the Treasurys agents run afairs causes lower quality Metals to be used in the mint. Flooding the market with poor quality coins that are hardly any use abroad.
INFLATION
It will cost France 2 econ to perform any act that would cost 1 econ otherwise. For the purpose of loans, 1 econ from states not affected by inflation is worth 2 econ from France. (Duration 2 years. End July 1429 )
* Piemonte's loans are wiped out .
* Provence, Tuscany and Auvergne should have their current econ reset to starting level for their next players
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Re: Aquitaine
Thanks, CC
(Dig the login )
Aquitaine is yours for the taking.
Please once again visit the National Statistics thread and make a post informing our resident Nat Stats man Bloody American what your new nation is and also what name you have chosen for it's head of state. Now you're ready to post your stupendous court thread!
Please also adopt the avatar of the realm you've been granted, to help other players to recognise which nation you're now playing.
Sure, the Ak Koyunlu (sp?) are yours, too.
Please once again visit the National Statistics thread and make a post informing our resident Nat Stats man Bloody American what your new nation is and also what name you have chosen for it's head of state. Now you're ready to post your stupendous court thread!
Please also adopt the avatar of the realm you've been granted, to help other players to recognise which nation you're now playing.
Welcome to the game, gents,
Josef
Thanks, CC
Hi, MdS
(Dig the login )Aquitaine is yours for the taking.
Please once again visit the National Statistics thread and make a post informing our resident Nat Stats man Bloody American what your new nation is and also what name you have chosen for it's head of state. Now you're ready to post your stupendous court thread!
Please also adopt the avatar of the realm you've been granted, to help other players to recognise which nation you're now playing.
Don't do that, you'll give yourself arthritis.
Sure, the Ak Koyunlu (sp?) are yours, too.
Please once again visit the National Statistics thread and make a post informing our resident Nat Stats man Bloody American what your new nation is and also what name you have chosen for it's head of state. Now you're ready to post your stupendous court thread!
Please also adopt the avatar of the realm you've been granted, to help other players to recognise which nation you're now playing.
Welcome to the game, gents,
Josef
Damocles,
I spoke to Tracid on MSN, and apparently his friend won't be able to take up Lithuania, in the end. Since you're next in line for it, welcome aboard!
Please once again visit the National Statistics thread and make a post informing our resident Nat Stats man Bloody American what your new nation is and also what name you have chosen for it's head of state. Now you're ready to post your stupendous court thread!
Please also adopt the avatar of the realm you've been granted, to help other players to recognise which nation you're now playing.
Josef
- CRUSADES/JIHADS CLARAFICATIONS -
Folks,
In response to the discussion in the Aslyum regarding how Crusades are handled, here's a few claraifications for you.
When the Pope has called a crusade, Catholic realms can do as they please, but they get the +1 to morale if they attack any of the realms the Holy See has singled out for the crusade. Whilst the crusade in place, if any catholic realm attacks another catholic, they receive a -1 to morale. The defender is not penalised at all.
Powers of the Pope
• Call a Concille of Cardinals to discuss matters of faith.
• Appoint and demote Cardinals.
• Call a Crusade. +1 to morale when attacking nations/faiths that are the target of the Crusade. -1 to morale for catholic nations that attack other catholic nations, unless those nations are the target of the crusade.
• Excommunicate a Catholic ruler, giving him -1 morale for the duration of excommunication.
• Papal States' army always has a permanent +1 morale.
Remember, folks, simply saying 'I join the crusade' in the nat stats DOES NOT constitute a proper DoW. From a detatched, ooc, game-mechanics point of view, all a crusade does is give you the bonus when attacking a realm that happens to be the target of the crusade.
I hope this clarifies things for you.
Josef
Lithuania delcares that it will join the crusade with great ferocity by declaring war on the Golden Horde.
I would like to take 4 points of eco and spend it on my landmil, giving me a total land power of 8.
I would like to take 4 points of eco and spend it on my landmil, giving me a total land power of 8.
EVENT
In the east a couple of things come to pass as the Golden Horde see the desperate situation they're in.
Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode to the Northeast. He knew that the people of the Golden Horde had to hear the message of Bars Khan's great accention. They had to know that in this time of trouble and evil, that Bars still watched them and would lead them to victory. As he passed the occupying garrisons, he saw that their spirit was low, and some sought to return to the steppes, it was becoming too much in the cities for some of the nomads.
He crossed the lands of Astrakhan, but did not stop there, for the other Khans would hold him too long. In the mountains that split the step, which the Westerners called the Urals, there would be warriors. Those who were hardier even than the normal steppe warriors. Their time in the mountains had made them into fighters who were stronger than any man, and who could fight longer and harder than any cowardly Christian. Throughout his journey, the slave-races avoided him, almost as if they could sense that he was their doom.
As he reached the base of the mountains, two horsemen rode out before him, and saluted him in the manner of the Golden Horde. Manzan smiled to himself, and responded.
"Greetings, mighty warriors of the mountains. I have come to call you to battle, in the name of the mighty Bars Khan, who sits at God's right hand!"
(1 econ to trigger and modify. +1 modifier for good RP)
(total +2 modifier )
6. Roaming troops and the mountain warriors come down from the mountains to join the fight. (+2 L/M)
5. Mountain warriors come down from the mountains to join the fight+1 L/M
4. Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode to find support and he gets it. But no warriors (+1 tech/morale for 3 turns)
3. Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode fast and the news that followed the rider was DEFEAT (-1 tech/morale for 3 turns)
2. Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode to his death at the mercy of mountain bandits the men of garrisons desert. (-1 L/M)
1. Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode to his death at the mercy of mountain bandits the men of garrisons desert. (-2 L/M)
L/M lasts for wars duration.
A 4 is rolled (+2 modifier) = 6
Roaming troops and the mountain warriors come down from the mountains to join the fight. (+2 L/M to the Golden Horde )
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EVENT
Extended war attrition for the Nomad Horde.
War may be a way of life for some, but even the Nomads of the Steppes miss home and get bored. Considering the lack of direction from their Khans and the fact that many have not been home in years, all the garrisons of occupied territory from the Golden Horde consider going home.
1. Garrisons Stay; Just (-1 morale for 1 year )
2. Garrisons Stay; Just (-2 morale for 1 year)
3. 50% (rounded up) of occupied cities fall to anarchy as the Garrison leaves for home ( They revert to their original loyalties unless an enemy army is still present.)
4. 100% (rounded up) of occupied cities fall to anarchy as the Garrison leaves for home ( They revert to their original loyalties unless an enemy army is still present.)
A 3 is rolled.
Provinces,
Istria,and Smyrna stay under the hordes thumb.
Dalmatia, IoniaFall to anarchy, as the Garrisons leave for home ( They revert to their original loyalties unless an enemy army is still present.)
EDIT OUT: Thrace,
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EVENT
Iskander Bey, known to Christians as Prince Alexander or simply Skanderbeg, baptised George Castriota before his conversion to Islam, son of the late King Gjon of Albania, brother to the current Prince-Regent of Albania
entered Tirana late one Sunday evening with his small detachment of Janissaries. He found his brother exiting church.
The blood drained out of Stephen's face when he saw the cool visage of his brother.
"Is this it then? Have you come to execute me for some imagined
crime?"
Iskander considered his brother for a long moment. "No. I have come to raise you an army."
Backed by a small core of Janissaries, just in case the Albanians forgot who was paying for their swords and dinners, the Albanians quickly raised a small army. The royal treasury was then emptied and an entire extra regiment was outfitted. The army of Albania, led by the great Skanderbeg, marched to join the Sultan, to fight off the rapacious Crusaders....
5% chance of denial. 63% rolled
The Ottoman Empire invokes the mutual defense clause of the vassalage agreement. Albania spends its one eco to buy one landmil. Army of [2/0/4/4/0] forms under the control of the command of the Ottoman Empire.
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EVENT
Bremen ask Mecklemburg to give RoP to Bremen, Pommern and Gelreon an ongoing basis.
As they are Hansa member it may be given to them on the understanding that it cuts both ways.
1-4 = Yes
5-6 = No.
A 4 is rolled
RoP is given to Bremen, Pommern and Gelre through Mecklemburg on the understanding that it cuts both ways.
In the east a couple of things come to pass as the Golden Horde see the desperate situation they're in.
Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode to the Northeast. He knew that the people of the Golden Horde had to hear the message of Bars Khan's great accention. They had to know that in this time of trouble and evil, that Bars still watched them and would lead them to victory. As he passed the occupying garrisons, he saw that their spirit was low, and some sought to return to the steppes, it was becoming too much in the cities for some of the nomads.
He crossed the lands of Astrakhan, but did not stop there, for the other Khans would hold him too long. In the mountains that split the step, which the Westerners called the Urals, there would be warriors. Those who were hardier even than the normal steppe warriors. Their time in the mountains had made them into fighters who were stronger than any man, and who could fight longer and harder than any cowardly Christian. Throughout his journey, the slave-races avoided him, almost as if they could sense that he was their doom.
As he reached the base of the mountains, two horsemen rode out before him, and saluted him in the manner of the Golden Horde. Manzan smiled to himself, and responded.
"Greetings, mighty warriors of the mountains. I have come to call you to battle, in the name of the mighty Bars Khan, who sits at God's right hand!"
(1 econ to trigger and modify. +1 modifier for good RP)
(total +2 modifier )
6. Roaming troops and the mountain warriors come down from the mountains to join the fight. (+2 L/M)
5. Mountain warriors come down from the mountains to join the fight+1 L/M
4. Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode to find support and he gets it. But no warriors (+1 tech/morale for 3 turns)
3. Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode fast and the news that followed the rider was DEFEAT (-1 tech/morale for 3 turns)
2. Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode to his death at the mercy of mountain bandits the men of garrisons desert. (-1 L/M)
1. Manzan, the former page of Bars Khan rode to his death at the mercy of mountain bandits the men of garrisons desert. (-2 L/M)
L/M lasts for wars duration.
A 4 is rolled (+2 modifier) = 6
Roaming troops and the mountain warriors come down from the mountains to join the fight. (+2 L/M to the Golden Horde )
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EVENT
Extended war attrition for the Nomad Horde.
War may be a way of life for some, but even the Nomads of the Steppes miss home and get bored. Considering the lack of direction from their Khans and the fact that many have not been home in years, all the garrisons of occupied territory from the Golden Horde consider going home.
1. Garrisons Stay; Just (-1 morale for 1 year )
2. Garrisons Stay; Just (-2 morale for 1 year)
3. 50% (rounded up) of occupied cities fall to anarchy as the Garrison leaves for home ( They revert to their original loyalties unless an enemy army is still present.)
4. 100% (rounded up) of occupied cities fall to anarchy as the Garrison leaves for home ( They revert to their original loyalties unless an enemy army is still present.)
A 3 is rolled.
Provinces,
Istria,and Smyrna stay under the hordes thumb.
Dalmatia, IoniaFall to anarchy, as the Garrisons leave for home ( They revert to their original loyalties unless an enemy army is still present.)
EDIT OUT: Thrace,
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EVENT
Iskander Bey, known to Christians as Prince Alexander or simply Skanderbeg, baptised George Castriota before his conversion to Islam, son of the late King Gjon of Albania, brother to the current Prince-Regent of Albania
entered Tirana late one Sunday evening with his small detachment of Janissaries. He found his brother exiting church.
The blood drained out of Stephen's face when he saw the cool visage of his brother.
"Is this it then? Have you come to execute me for some imagined
crime?"
Iskander considered his brother for a long moment. "No. I have come to raise you an army."
Backed by a small core of Janissaries, just in case the Albanians forgot who was paying for their swords and dinners, the Albanians quickly raised a small army. The royal treasury was then emptied and an entire extra regiment was outfitted. The army of Albania, led by the great Skanderbeg, marched to join the Sultan, to fight off the rapacious Crusaders....
5% chance of denial. 63% rolled
The Ottoman Empire invokes the mutual defense clause of the vassalage agreement. Albania spends its one eco to buy one landmil. Army of [2/0/4/4/0] forms under the control of the command of the Ottoman Empire.
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EVENT
Bremen ask Mecklemburg to give RoP to Bremen, Pommern and Gelreon an ongoing basis.
As they are Hansa member it may be given to them on the understanding that it cuts both ways.
1-4 = Yes
5-6 = No.
A 4 is rolled
RoP is given to Bremen, Pommern and Gelre through Mecklemburg on the understanding that it cuts both ways.
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I hope this is a valid question,
The event of Rebel. concerning garrisons of the GH leave the city's for home, but what has that to do with Thrace, isn't that of the GH or does it become of the Byzantinien Empire?
The event of Rebel. concerning garrisons of the GH leave the city's for home, but what has that to do with Thrace, isn't that of the GH or does it become of the Byzantinien Empire?
Jeez was that attrition event ever annoying. Here's a question: I had Thrace ceded to me by treaty, so why am I losing it for no real reason? I can understand the Venetian provinces, since my hold on them was tenuous (and it saves you guys a turn or two!), but not only is Thrace strongly held, but it's a point of pride for the Mongols to hold it.
So if I don't have the city, who does? Byzantium gave up it's right to it when they signed the treaty. It could really by anyone. If you just want to strip me of the city, then the Ottoman Empire has a fair sized army kicking around the walls.
So if I don't have the city, who does? Byzantium gave up it's right to it when they signed the treaty. It could really by anyone. If you just want to strip me of the city, then the Ottoman Empire has a fair sized army kicking around the walls.
Thrace
Sorry guys. I forgot that Thrace was cedede in a treaty. Two errors in one day. Blast, I'm slipping big time.
I will edit Thrace out, and sort it.
Reb
Sorry guys. I forgot that Thrace was cedede in a treaty. Two errors in one day. Blast, I'm slipping big time.
I will edit Thrace out, and sort it.
Reb
Wurzburg spends one eco on Landmil. The stats are: 2/0/3/4/1
not including the -2 morale (core/noncore crusaders) from an event and +1 morale from an event (crusade)
not including the -2 morale (core/noncore crusaders) from an event and +1 morale from an event (crusade)
I have a question about Sea mil, can I move my sea mil located in Mecca, all the way around Africa and to Breman for example or am I confined to the area connected to the Red Sea
He use christians as slave labour to dig a channel through Sinai
No seriusly, Arnou, It cant be done.
Announcing that Emir Jahar has risen to power in Ak Koyunlu. Due to the chaos surrounding his sudden ascent, the Emiral Court of Ak Koyunlu will not begin accepting ambassadors until sometime Saturday after the hangover- er- coronation- has passed.
Treaty
Treaty of Soba-Cairo, 1427
Article I: The annual exchange of Tribute
The King and the Sultan shall exchange a tribute of slaves for grain on the first month of each year. Failure to deliver will not be considered a breach of treaty. However, whoever fails to fulfill this goodwill gesture between two nations shall do so with a formal letter of explanation and apology. During times of labor shortage in Egypt the King of Nubia shall sent twice as many slaves. During times of famine in Nubia, the Sultan of Egypt shall send twice as much grain.
Article II: Economic aid during wartime
Should the Sultan engage in wars of conquest or defense, the King of Nubia will give economic aid whenever it is reasonable and non threatening to the security of his state to do so. The old agreement stands that neither Nubia or the Sultanate shall assist one another in times of war militarily. Should either side aggress the other, this article is void.
Article III: Trade agreements of the Sultan's enemies
Nubia shall revoke trade agreements with any nation that declares war on the Sultan. This article shall only apply to nations that are the aggressors. Nubia shall not be required to cancel trade agreements for those the Sultan himself attacks. However, new trade agreements shall not be signed with these nations until the end of the war or with the Sultan's approval.
Article IV: Military aid to the Sultanate
During times of war, the armies of the King shall not be asked or required to fight for the Sultan. However, the royal navy shall transport mameluke armies anywhere in the Red or Arabian seas. As the Nubian navy is unable to access the Mediterranean sea, they cannot be used for any sea operations there.
Article V: Vassalage and Religion
The northern muslim area and its prince in Dongola remain property and in vassalage to the christian king of Alwah. In matters of faith and God, they shall be considered a vassal of the Sultan. All matters of religion must be conferred to the Sultan and the Sultan does not need to request the King's permission for acts of religion such as building of mosques and missionary work in Batn Al Hajar. No property of the king may be damaged, no christian churches may be destroyed, and no mistreatment of any religion is to occur. Should any of these happen, this article shall be void.
The Sultan shall guarantee and make no effort to uproot the Christian religion in Nubia. The main orthodox church of Dongola shall be converted to a Shiite mosque as a center for the missionary work of the Imams and Mullahs sent from Cairo.
Article VI: Trade and Taxation
The merchants of the Sultan shall pay no tax when purchasing commodities in Nubia nor shall they pay tarrifs on their imported goods.
All imports that pass through Egypt are subject to taxation and tarrif by the Sultan. This excludes imports from India, Aden and Oman.
Article VII: Territorial independence.
The Sultan and the King promise to never threaten one another's independence of seize territory. Neither the King nor the Sultan shall interfere in matters of religion in any province of either state except where otherwise excepted in the articles of the treaty.
The core realms of Egypt and Nubia are hereby fixed and sealed for all time and our borders secured.
Article VIII: Succession of the Nubian throne
Should the King of Nubia die without heir, the matters shall be decided by the Sultan. The new king must be at least 15 years of age and a member of the royal line of Nubia.
In these articles we place our faith for the continued survival of Nubia and the Sultanate and the peaceful co-existance of our two states. These treaty shall be signed in blood, and is good for the lifetime of those who signed. Should either be killed, or die naturally, the treaty shall be voided or renegotiated.
[X]-- Solomon I, King of Alwah and overlords of all Nubia
[X] --
Treaty of Soba-Cairo, 1427
Article I: The annual exchange of Tribute
The King and the Sultan shall exchange a tribute of slaves for grain on the first month of each year. Failure to deliver will not be considered a breach of treaty. However, whoever fails to fulfill this goodwill gesture between two nations shall do so with a formal letter of explanation and apology. During times of labor shortage in Egypt the King of Nubia shall sent twice as many slaves. During times of famine in Nubia, the Sultan of Egypt shall send twice as much grain.
Article II: Economic aid during wartime
Should the Sultan engage in wars of conquest or defense, the King of Nubia will give economic aid whenever it is reasonable and non threatening to the security of his state to do so. The old agreement stands that neither Nubia or the Sultanate shall assist one another in times of war militarily. Should either side aggress the other, this article is void.
Article III: Trade agreements of the Sultan's enemies
Nubia shall revoke trade agreements with any nation that declares war on the Sultan. This article shall only apply to nations that are the aggressors. Nubia shall not be required to cancel trade agreements for those the Sultan himself attacks. However, new trade agreements shall not be signed with these nations until the end of the war or with the Sultan's approval.
Article IV: Military aid to the Sultanate
During times of war, the armies of the King shall not be asked or required to fight for the Sultan. However, the royal navy shall transport mameluke armies anywhere in the Red or Arabian seas. As the Nubian navy is unable to access the Mediterranean sea, they cannot be used for any sea operations there.
Article V: Vassalage and Religion
The northern muslim area and its prince in Dongola remain property and in vassalage to the christian king of Alwah. In matters of faith and God, they shall be considered a vassal of the Sultan. All matters of religion must be conferred to the Sultan and the Sultan does not need to request the King's permission for acts of religion such as building of mosques and missionary work in Batn Al Hajar. No property of the king may be damaged, no christian churches may be destroyed, and no mistreatment of any religion is to occur. Should any of these happen, this article shall be void.
The Sultan shall guarantee and make no effort to uproot the Christian religion in Nubia. The main orthodox church of Dongola shall be converted to a Shiite mosque as a center for the missionary work of the Imams and Mullahs sent from Cairo.
Article VI: Trade and Taxation
The merchants of the Sultan shall pay no tax when purchasing commodities in Nubia nor shall they pay tarrifs on their imported goods.
All imports that pass through Egypt are subject to taxation and tarrif by the Sultan. This excludes imports from India, Aden and Oman.
Article VII: Territorial independence.
The Sultan and the King promise to never threaten one another's independence of seize territory. Neither the King nor the Sultan shall interfere in matters of religion in any province of either state except where otherwise excepted in the articles of the treaty.
The core realms of Egypt and Nubia are hereby fixed and sealed for all time and our borders secured.
Article VIII: Succession of the Nubian throne
Should the King of Nubia die without heir, the matters shall be decided by the Sultan. The new king must be at least 15 years of age and a member of the royal line of Nubia.
In these articles we place our faith for the continued survival of Nubia and the Sultanate and the peaceful co-existance of our two states. These treaty shall be signed in blood, and is good for the lifetime of those who signed. Should either be killed, or die naturally, the treaty shall be voided or renegotiated.
[X]-- Solomon I, King of Alwah and overlords of all Nubia
[X] --
Brittany and Naples
Ok So Edmund Beaufort is Dead and Daniel I Sforza is Dead. I am now in charch of Naples its HOS is Daniels Daughter
Queen Louisa I Sforza.
Naples no longer wishes to be an Aragonese Vassil.
Ok So Edmund Beaufort is Dead and Daniel I Sforza is Dead. I am now in charch of Naples its HOS is Daniels Daughter
Queen Louisa I Sforza.
Naples no longer wishes to be an Aragonese Vassil.
Re: Brittany and Naples
Aragon disallows the movement as is clearly stated in vassalization issue that Naples is part of the Crown of Aragon and Sforza are only regents under the title of King.
Otherwise the title of King goes to King Alfons and you should be considered Rebel.
Aragon disallows the movement as is clearly stated in vassalization issue that Naples is part of the Crown of Aragon and Sforza are only regents under the title of King.
Otherwise the title of King goes to King Alfons and you should be considered Rebel.
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