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Although I am aware that there is a mollusc class of species in the game, as well as a mammal that is described to have inhabited the seas for some of it's history, both of these only appear to be former aquatic races that eventually immigrated onto land. So far, there don't seem to be any proper sea-inhabiting races.

There are some problems and questions on how a fully aquatic race could develop all the technology needed for space-travel, but Stellaris doesn't claim to be 100% realistic, and a marine spacefaring race doesn't seem much less likely than FTL travel being developed by several unconnected species within a small timeframe in the same galaxy(at least to me).

These aquatic species would, however, obviously require some mechanics to be changed/adjusted for them(e.g. adding a different class of tiles for submarine environments, changing some planetary invasion costs, etc.), so I see why they wouldn't be in the base game(due to time constraints). However, I feel that an eventual DLC for this would be high on the interest-lists of many people. Post your thoughts on the topic here, as well as any suggestions in regards to the mechanics themselves for these races.
 
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There is no reason an aquatic species which formed an advanced civilization wouldn't be able to reach the stars. However it would have been a very different experience then our own. Maybe relying on organic technologies more then inorganic.

There are many plausible mechanisms by which an aquatic intelligence can accumulate energy from natural sources, practice the chemistry needed to transform, concentrate, and control it. Therefore the answer is yes: an aquatic civilization could conduct space travel.

I think there road to space travel would be a longer one but once there i think they would make the adjustment to space travel easier then we would have. It certainly would make things easier for them if they lived on a planet with lower gravity then our own considering space vessels filled with liquid would be substantially heavier then our own. Of course initially they might go into space in space suites with there environment within having to replenish what they breath periodically.
 
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Although I am aware that there is a mollusc class of species in the game, as well as a mammal that is described to have inhabited the seas for some of it's history, both of these only appear to be former aquatic races that eventually immigrated onto land. So far, there don't seem to be any proper sea-inhabiting races.
Maybe there are purely aquatic species, but we don't know.

There are some problems and questions on how a fully aquatic race could develop all the technology needed for space-travel, but Stellaris doesn't claim to be 100% realistic, and a marine spacefaring race doesn't seem much less likely than FTL travel being developed by several unconnected species within a small timeframe in the same galaxy(at least to me).
Well, as prudent people say, we are the only case of space-faring species we know, and we didn't even go very far. It's entirely possible that non-aquatic space travelling species are the exception. People who say that it's harder for an aquatic species to reach space are unimaginative or anthropo-centrists - water environements doesn't even need to be the same as what we have on earth. We couldn't even imagine some kinds of aquatic monkeys in aquatic forests and steppes. I won't write a book here, but the sacred "stone tools -> fire -> wheel" (or its variants) is not necessary. And you don't even need to imagine complexe organic technologies - fire can be replaced by various chemical reactions, for example. So, as usual, it's better to trust the rule of cool than the rule of pseudo-realism.

These aquatic species would, however, obviously require some mechanics to be changed/adjusted for them(e.g. adding a different class of tiles for submarine environments, changing some planetary invasion costs, etc.), so I see why they wouldn't be in the base game(due to time constraints). However, I feel that an eventual DLC for this would be high on the interest-lists of many people. Post your thoughts on the topic here, as well as any suggestions in regards to the mechanics themselves for these races.
Each planet has its own very specific environements. Great storms. Big deserts. Giant trees. Solid clouds. I think it would be better to link it to the planet than to the species - For ocean planets, the species would live either under the sea, or on floating islands, something like that.

There is no reason an aquatic species which formed an advanced civilization wouldn't be able to reach the stars. However it would have been a very different experience then our own.
That's entirely true.

Maybe relying on organic technologies more then inorganic.

There are many plausible mechanisms by which an aquatic intelligence can accumulate energy from natural sources, practice the chemistry needed to transform, concentrate, and control it. Therefore the answer is yes: an aquatic civilization could conduct space travel.

I think there road to space travel would be a longer one but once there i think they would make the adjustment to space travel easier then we would have. It certainly would make things easier for them if they lived on a planet with lower gravity then our own considering space vessels filled with liquid would be substantially heavier then our own. Of course initially they might go into space in space suites with there environment within having to replenish what they breath periodically.
I don't understand why our own road to space travel should be shorter. Especially since technological is only a prerequisite - we didn't go into space because we could, but because of political reasons. And we didn't even invent FTL space travel yet. Maybe aquatic species have something that ease the process, and maybe they are discussing on their own forums : "Can terrestrial species into space ?" and ther answers are "it's obviously harder for them to develop FTL because they don't have schlourves. Their road to space would be longer, as obviously they can't benefit from the water protection in space and have all kinds of problems with low gravity." etc.

I think it's as difficult for us to imagine alien species that it would be to understand astrophysics without being able to see anything else than their own planet. They wouldn't even be sure that there are other planets. And remember how your prediction were wrong about exoplanet... This time, we already thought that our solar system was a good example, and it looks like it's in fact an exception. There are gaz giant next to the sun, and other weird things. I don't think we are able to understand things as complexe as intelligent life or the road to FTL travel without more examples. When we talk about aliens, we need to keep in mind that's almost pure speculation (well, except for the obvious things, but we need to be very prudent.)
 
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the only thing i can think of which would limit the aqautic species are that they would be more demanding on planet conditions (obviously need water), but otherwise there is no reason why aquatic should have any problems conquering space...well regarding ground battles and maintaining order on hostile planet (with airbreathers) they would have difficulties. even in suits they could have physiological disadvantages but other species would have similar problems probably too - like with different gravity or atmosphere composition. but you would probably come up with some solution when you're about to attack a planet.
there are maybe just some game mechanics and graphic issues why they are not currently in the game or maybe an ace in developers sleeve
 
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Is there any reason you couldn't just consider any race from an ocean world to be aquatic? They'd be most at home in the oceans, but also enjoy continental worlds with their significant amount of water and uhh I guess they'd melt down some heated prime real estate from glaciers on arctic worlds. It's kinda wonky, but to be honest the whole habitability wheel is weird if you think about it too much.
 
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I had plans for an aquatic race, actually, and figured on making them ocean natives with the nonadaptive trait as an admittedly imperfect simulation of this.
 
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There are so many reasons why truly aquatic life isn't nearly as probable as terrestrial life to go to space, but the biggest is simple: water is heavy. Trying to accelerate fast enough to escape a medium sized planet is hard enough without multiplying the density of the material you have to push out of your way by 1,000.
 
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I reckon i'm going to get an aquatic race going who's home world is desert with the explanation that their world dried up due to some climatic event which forced them to adapt through the use of technology to living in dry and arid lands. Just because you're an octopus don't mean you got to conform to them there hairy mammals preconceptions.
 
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There are so many reasons why truly aquatic life isn't nearly as probable as terrestrial life to go to space, but the biggest is simple: water is heavy. Trying to accelerate fast enough to escape a medium sized planet is hard enough without multiplying the density of the material you have to push out of your way by 1,000.
Well even an aquatic species could move the rocket out of the water before setting off.
 
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There are so many reasons why truly aquatic life isn't nearly as probable as terrestrial life to go to space, but the biggest is simple: water is heavy. Trying to accelerate fast enough to escape a medium sized planet is hard enough without multiplying the density of the material you have to push out of your way by 1,000.

Just because they're aquatic doesn't mean they can't build outposts and ship-building factories on the surface.

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An aquatic race would also feel itself much more at home in zero gravity...
 
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And you don't even need to imagine complexe organic technologies - fire can be replaced by various chemical reactions, for example. So, as usual, it's better to trust the rule of cool than the rule of pseudo-realism.

Like what? Fire is so important for our civilization...as is the...well...thumb and both wouldn't exist for creatures under water. There might be ocean worlds full of life out there, but intelligent life that reaches an industrial state? That is very unlikely to happen for a planet like Earth (we should probably consider ourselves an accident). For an ocean world it seems infeasible. How would they use metal? How would they prepare food in such a way, that it can sustain a large brain?

One should also remember that intelligent life is not some higher goal of evolution. Their might be a lot of planets out their, that had a lot of live for billions of years without ever developing a species with higher intelligence.
 
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Considering there is Uplift in this game.. In the Uplift series of books by David Brin Dolphins pilot starships. They were uplifted by Humans, and have mechanical devices to enable them to function on dry land. Just offering that as a possibility.
 
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Adding aquatic races and the game mechanics for how can they use spaceships, colonize other worlds, ground assault other plants (and how others can attack them)
sound like a lot for work for very little in return for the dev team.
adding aquatic races without these game mechanics will look cheap, just a cosmetic add on with no explanation.

also, if you can add aquatic races what about lifeforms from toxic plants? gas giant?
it will have no end, a lot of work for very little reward.
 
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A couple of my playthroughs, I am roleplaying as being an aquatic species. So I guess it is whether or not your power of imagination is superior to fish-tank diplomacy screen.
 
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