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In theory, yes. But the problem is in the way that gavelkind distributes provinces with (seemingly) no rhyme nor reason. Instead of nice little sub-kingdoms/duchies forming, you are just as likely to see a son who is King Castile and owns a handful of provinces scattered all over Iberia. The task of coding better logic for that is apperently a mamoth one so I'm extremely nervous about it. Not that I've given up on the idea, but I'd like to find a more reliable way for the breakup to result in compact, logical mini-realms.

-Fatamids still break up very early (was around 1070 for me).
I can do some more tweaking the chances of that happening, although perhaps it was just an (epected) anomaly in your game? I'll wait to see some more reports to see if that's a trend or just a fluke.

-Crusade fired 1079 to Alexandria (arent these still be callled approx 20 years too early?).
The first crusade should happen sometime between 1075 and 1100 and is *very* likely to be Jerusalem, Antioch or Alexandria (with odds of it happening being in that approximate order, depending on in-game circumstances) so 1079 is certainly within that range.

-Muslims seem pretty weak still (cant they be given horse archers please.
Some of them do now get free horse archers. That's a new event that will probably need some tweaking to fine tune its mtth. It could also relate to the new recruitment rates being a bit more favourable for the Christians than used to be the case. We'll keep tweaking until we get it right. (Oh the joys of beta! :p)

-Cumans and Prechengs got hammered. Byz had taken 10 Cuman provinces and Poland had 9 Precheng ones by 1080.
That's the region that we've begun (as of this past week) to really focus on so look for more changes to help that situation siin.

-Byz seems pretty stable (i didnt notice any rebellious vasslas).
Could be the ruler? Anyway...more stuff en route for them and it will be interesting to see how they manage on an average long-term basis.

-I didnt notice any D-Day amphibous assaults, so those sea changes seem to be helping.
wOOt!
 

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Something that i had forgotten to post previously and just remembered...is there going to be anything done on the monthy increase/decrease to prestige? It seems to reset at the beginning of the year. Gold doesn't and i'm not sure about piety.

But that combined with the fact no one outside the ruler can get monthly effects really is another major thing that screws up the balance of the game.
 

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There ought to be more ways for clerical educated people and diocese bishops to gain faith. As it is, there's the 10 faith they get when they start their education, and very little else. At the very least, the "child shows interest in religion" events ought to give them some faith rather than just traits, and the "many years of service" event for diocese bishops ought to give them some faith as well as prestige.
 

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richvh said:
There ought to be more ways for clerical educated people and diocese bishops to gain faith. As it is, there's the 10 faith they get when they start their education, and very little else. At the very least, the "child shows interest in religion" events ought to give them some faith rather than just traits, and the "many years of service" event for diocese bishops ought to give them some faith as well as prestige.
Well if the trait effects worked for everyone, not just rulers, then there would be no need to give piety.
 

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Just a quick overview of my current game:

Sevillia is a monster controlling almost all southern Iberia, and hasn't taken out the Christians only because it's fighting England.

Crusades have been working great, 1st one to Jerusalem and HRE, France and Venice have all taken turns at the Fatimads, who have remained intact the entire time. After Egypt had been mostly taken, France backstabbed HRE and fought there and back at home. A very nice 50+ years of back and forth fighting, with the Fatimads rarely attacking overseas (sometimes they held some territory in south Italy, Bohemia and Greece, but the crusaders took them back soon after).

Cuman lasted longer than previous games, but the Russians still took them out early. They (the Russians) are now losing a fight to southeastern muslims.

Byzantium hasn't expanded as much as in previous games, but it might just be random. Serbia broke away early on, but that was it for independance events.
 

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Second game, playing as Kiev, not running debug.

Crusade Dec 1075 to Jerusalem.

Iberia pretty much united under Spanish Galicia by 1100. It appears there was minimal outside help on either side. Hungary divided between the Pechenegs, Cumans, and Alans (with Poland sneaking one province). Byzantium conquered all of Croatia's Adriatic coast but has otherwise done nothing at all. The Holy Land is a mess, with a goodly number of the Fatimid vassals broken away, and a patchwork of Christian lands. Bavaria took Jersualem about 1080. Sweden ended up with 3 provinces in Egypt, and there were a few other Christian provinces from among the sheikdoms. Germany conquered Pommerania by 1080 also.
 

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Brief sketch of Kappadokia game, apr8 beta:

Romanos D. became emperor very early; before I took out Aleppo.

Exploit warning: if I declare war on Aintab, I can get Aintab to call up its troops separately; then finish off Aleppo . When Aleppo province falls, Aleppo recinds the "count" of Aintab's title - this eliminates the Aintab army, leaving ~100 men instead of ~800.

The first crusade (~1070) was Cordoba. It apparently ended because Venice captured Cordoba, but much of the Muslim territories of S. Iberia were intact. (The capital of Venice moved to Cordoba because Venice had some sort of sickness.)

I then moved against Syria because the Fatamids had completely fallen apart early - I'm not sure exactly when.

A point on Romanos D. - he is often the first heir to Dukas - and his Intrigue is 1! He generally only kept 3 demense province - making him quite poor. At one point later my income was ~180 while his (as emperor) was only ~20. :eek:

The second crusade (1084) was against Jerusalem - since it was no longer part of the Fatamids - I quicky took it - and the crusades ended before the Catholics appeared in the levant.

The third crusade (1088) was against Alexandria - again I short-stopped it by seizing it. Between Alexios (17 stew.) and his daughter (16 stew.) I was getting 67D/month out of Alexandria. At this point, I got an "another prince" truce - but was not too dissapointed - I was running at 8 demense (6 = limit).

As I was considering whether to wait to become Byz. Emp., I got an event where I could choose to become independent; since I had been toying with the idea of becoming King of Egypt (since the loss of Alexandria was the death-stroke for the Fatimids), I jumped on it and proceeded to fight three different muslim states in Egypt to get the territories to become King of Egypt.
 

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How about some sort of event for if you have 2 or more kingdom titles and you have a son who has a count/duke title, is NOT first in line for succession, and has high martial and/or intrigue stats (say 8 or higher, or 10 or higher, or something that you find reasonably denotes being a very gifted and competent belligerent asshole/shifty schemer of a son), and goes something like this:

Your skilled yet ungrateful son demands you relinquish your claim to (Title X).

A. Crush the little bastard. (War with son's realm.)
B. Bribe him off for a little while. (Spend money to keep son appeased.)
C. Well, he does have a point. (Cede title X)

Something like that. Basically, the son would demand the king title for whichever kingdom he is in. If you picked option A, then there would be war, the son would get a claim on that kingdom title, AND, based on the relative difference between your stats and the son's stats, the other characters with lands in that particular kingdom area would have N% chance of breaking away, forming alliances with the son, and then attacking you.

And overall, the chance of this event firing would be dramatically increased if your main inheritor son had crap stats, and would of course be modified by the traits of the son involved and the ruler of the realm.

As to how realistic this is, I am not sure, but I think it would beat the insanity of gavelkind if it could be done.
 

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In the release info is stated that the portion of male random courtiers has been incereased.
Are you sure it works as intended? It may be just me, but my court is swarmed by women, but I have only one male courtier.

Me too. I've actually GOTTEN male courtiers, which is awesome (even though they were crap useless :mad: ) but still had at least a 2:1 ratio of females. Maybe it gets better later in the game after the initial marriage rush?
 

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Me too. I've actually GOTTEN male courtiers, which is awesome (even though they were crap useless :mad: ) but still had at least a 2:1 ratio of females. Maybe it gets better later in the game after the initial marriage rush?

Not really. 60 years after the start as Poland and I still have only 2 male courtiers (apart from my sons) which really suck. And how am I supposed to have a marshal or a bishop?
 

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ElimGarak said:
Me too. I've actually GOTTEN male courtiers, which is awesome (even though they were crap useless :mad: ) but still had at least a 2:1 ratio of females. Maybe it gets better later in the game after the initial marriage rush?

I've had a majority of females to males but have always been able to fill my Marshall slot with someone half-way decent. Not always the Chaplain slot, but only for want of correct education, not males ;)
 

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playing since a vry long time, installed 1.04a and the latest beta 8 april patch.
about 1/3 of the time i save or autosave happens the game ctd's. is this normal ?
 

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No.
I recommend you to do a clean install.:)
 

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Well, I do not have any problem with saves.:)
 

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MrT said:
Yes, that could be scripted (wouldn't be the easiest thing in the world to do since it would have to be scripted on almost a case by case basis, but it's certainly possible).

I guess the question becomes just how happy a player would be if his realm was suddenly forced into a shitty law just because he'd been highly successful in the game? The principles of game design would generally tell you that punishing a player for being successful is a bad (gamebreaking!) idea. Are you certain that this is something that you'd want modeled?

In my game the German hre went to salic gravelkind and now I've got the kingdom of Burgundy with Heinrich Von Franken and the kingdom of Germany under Ulrich d'Ardennes.

I'm playing the Norman kingdom of Naples and my father excommunicated about half of North Italy (belonging to kingdom of Burgundy). War is glooming as the next Norman heir will be the warmonger Norman "bastard" Hugues :D (ps = I love this game!) !!! Italy will fall !!!

but like I earlier said a Gravelkind law for the multiple kingdoms is not that bad.

So how did the German kingdom went gravelkind? IS there such an event (like I suggested earlier, or is it just luck?). :cool:
 

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some ppl do

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193204
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...aradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192117
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=189854

anyway it would be nice if someone can fix this, it very anyoing to play 2 hours and then start all over.

as i said before i installed clean copy, then 1.04a patch and latest beta
I've been running games on multiple computers all weekend with autosave on yearly and doing a manual save about 3-4 days prior to each autosave. In total I have done at least 800 saves (both games are now more than 200 years in) and I have had precisely 1 CTD on save. I am running the identical game that you are. So why is it that you are getting a 33% crash rate compared to my 0.125% crash rate? There must be something more involved -- and that "something" must be related to either your hardware or your underlying system/background software.

I understand your frustration and I agree that it would be nice to "fix it", but at this point we're having a devil of a time trying to figure out the cause.

Maybe you can help? What are your exact system specs? What is your OS? What (if anything) do you have running in the background (AV software, AS software, chat software, internet browser, notepad, etc.)? When did you last do a defrag of your HD? When did you last do a surface test of your HD? How much RAM do you have? What are your virtual memory settings and assignments? Etc...
 

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Spruce said:
So how did the German kingdom went gravelkind? IS there such an event (like I suggested earlier, or is it just luck?). :cool:
;)

Yuppers :)

Probably got either #6614 (in law events file) or #5212 (regency events file).