April 1st Beta Patch - event 9007 cultural conversion

[richvh]

Oops! Sorry about the confusion... Will you compare my list of modifiers to yours if I submit it to you? I'm a better historian than programmer, therefore you could take charge of the final coding of the event.

Sure.

Moreover, my feeling is that a strong "national church" should be more a hindrance than a help for cultural conversion, even if both cultures share the same religion.

I agree; that's why my old mod treated the clergy as a conservative force in cultural change (along with the peasantry) with the burghers and nobility as progressive forces (more likely to pick up the latest fad from the capital, so to speak.)

 

[Frontenac]

I agree; that's why my old mod treated the clergy as a conservative force in cultural change (along with the peasantry) with the burghers and nobility as progressive forces (more likely to pick up the latest fad from the capital, so to speak.)

Wow! Without even knowing it, you just described in two simple lines two centuries of Québec's resistance to English/Canadian assimilation, from the conquest of 1763 to the Quiet Revolution of 1960!

Your description also fits nicely the history of the Occitan culture in Southern France. The nobility and the top bourgeois were largely French in culture by the mid 16th century. But only the invention of military service actually brought the French language to the peasant masses in the 19th century.

 

[unmerged(6777)]

So perhaps adding in some caste power setting checks and/or modifiers might be a good idea (and nixing some of the other checks)...

 

[richvh]

Here's the MTTH modifiers I used, for inspirational purposes:

		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = trait
					value = merciful
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = trait
					value = just
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = trait
					value = energetic
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = trait
					value = cruel
				}
			}
			factor = 1.2
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = trait
					value = arbitrary
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = trait
					value = lazy
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_advance
					value = {
						vernacular_literature = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_advance
					value = {
						academic_disciplines = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_advance
					value = {
						international_fairs = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_advance
					value = {
						foreign_accreditation = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						university = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						thieves_guild = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						smugglers_ring = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						highway_robber_band = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						civilian_harbour = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						naval_harbour = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = { 
				type = to 
				condition = { 
					type = has_improvement 
					value = { 
						grand_shipyard = yes 
					} 
				} 
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = { 
				type = to 
				condition = { 
					type = has_improvement 
					value = { 
						roadnet = yes 
					} 
				} 
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}	
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						extensive_roadnet = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						civilian_harbour = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						naval_harbour = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						grand_shipyard = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						roadnet = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						extensive_roadnet = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						school = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						grand_palace = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.8
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						theater = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						monastery = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = has_improvement
					value = {
						domed_church = yes
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = ruler_stewardship
					value = 14
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = ruler_stewardship
					value = 17
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = ruler_stewardship
					value = 20
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}

# Nobles and Burghers are the engines of cultural change

		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = burgher_power
					value = 0.35
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = burgher_power
					value = 0.45
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = burgher_power
					value = 0.55
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = not
					value = {
						type = burgher_power
						value = 0.25
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = not
					value = {
						type = burgher_power
						value = 0.15
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = not
					value = {
						type = burgher_power
						value = 0.05
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = noble_power
					value = 0.35
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = noble_power
					value = 0.45
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = noble_power
					value = 0.55
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = not
					value = {
						type = noble_power
						value = 0.25
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = not
					value = {
						type = noble_power
						value = 0.15
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = not
					value = {
						type = noble_power
						value = 0.05
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}

# Peasants and clergy are conservative, and resist cultural change

		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = peasant_power
					value = 0.45
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = peasant_power
					value = 0.55
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = clergy_power
					value = 0.55
				}

			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = not
					value = {
						type = peasant_power
						value = 0.05
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = not
					value = {
						type = clergy_power
						value = 0.05
					}
				}
			}
			factor = 0.9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = desert 
				}
			}
			factor = 1.2
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = desert 
				}
			}
			factor = 1.1
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = forest 
				}
			}
			factor = 1.4
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = forest 
				}
			}
			factor = 1.2
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = hills 
				}
			}
			factor = 1.8
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = hills 
				}
			}
			factor = 1.4
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = mountain 
				}
			}
			factor = 2.5
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = mountain 
				}
			}
			factor = 2
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = march 
				}
			}
			factor = 1.6
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = from
				condition = { 
					type = terrain 
					value = march 
				}
			}
			factor = 1.4
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = ruler_prestige
					value = 1000
				}
			}
			factor = .9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = ruler_prestige
					value = 10000
				}
			}
			factor = .9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = to
				condition = {
					type = ruler_prestige
					value = 100000
				}
			}
			factor = .9
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = same_ruler
			}
			factor = .8
		}
		modifier = {
			condition = {
				type = same_religion
			}
			factor = .5
		}