Appointing Bishops: Does their learning stat matter?

[Khubilai]

When appointing successors to bishoprics under free investiture, do i need to worry about anything except their opinion of me? Seems the only reason you would want control of succession is to ensure a bishop that likes you enough to give their taxes to you and not the pope. If they have an abysmal Learning stat, does that affect how they run their bishopric at all?

 

[etherrose]

Not sure about the learning stats, but there are a couple of other benefits to free investiture. You can use it to disqualify heirs by giving a bad son or a brother a bishopric. And I think it lets you make antipopes. I don't think you can make them under papal investiture but I might be misremembering that.

 

[Maui]

To answer the OP: not really. I matters to the same degree that it matters for mayors and barons.

 

[dorukdorucu]

It doesn't affect anything special AFAIK, just the normal tech rate etc.
Also, i believe you can appoint an antipope with papal investiture, you just need him to like you more than he likes the pope.

 

[mrob]

When I've conquered a new province in a holy war that isn't catholic I make sure to appoint high learning bishops myself so that a) I get the piety and b) the count will have a high learning vassal to appoint court chaplain to speed up conversion. Personally, I almost never bother appointing successors to my bishops though. Maybe if I had an awesome courtier that I wanted to ensure would be around to be a councilor...

 

[Panzerschiffe]

Not sure about the learning stats, but there are a couple of other benefits to free investiture. You can use it to disqualify heirs by giving a bad son or a brother a bishopric. And I think it lets you make antipopes. I don't think you can make them under papal investiture but I might be misremembering that.

I've never been able to disqualify and heir like that. It always says "cannot appoint heir as bishop" or something. I think this might have been patched recently.

 

[tnick0225]

I've never been able to disqualify and heir like that. It always says "cannot appoint heir as bishop" or something. I think this might have been patched recently.

You can't appoint your heir, but you can appoint the other rascals which is beneficial if you haven't changed out of Gavelkind.

I usually appoint married courtiers from families I'm trying to save to bishoprics. Because seems like if they're married and a bishop they breed like rabbits. Tried saving House Karling this way but my daughter offed the son and daddy Karling before I could stop her Now they're down to 5 left in my game.

 

[barny]

You can also appoint people with good stats, to keep them with you and have them available as council members.

 

[Panzerschiffe]

You can't appoint your heir, but you can appoint the other rascals which is beneficial if you haven't changed out of Gavelkind.

I usually appoint married courtiers from families I'm trying to save to bishoprics. Because seems like if they're married and a bishop they breed like rabbits. Tried saving House Karling this way but my daughter offed the son and daddy Karling before I could stop her Now they're down to 5 left in my game.

So that means you can only appoint starting from the 2nd in line?

 

[Prince Michael]

So that means you can only appoint starting from the 2nd in line?

Exactly. If you want to disqualify your firstborn, you should change to elective. Then you can make him a bishop and by that, disqualify him from being available to be voted.. Note that merely naming your sons heirs for bishoprics is enough to disqualify them. So, in gavelkind, name your extra sons (option only available when they turn 16 - if you have only underage sons in gavelkind and get maimed etc., just give them bishoprics right away), they will get nothing when you die, and your firstborn gets all the secular titles. Then, if you have still some another use for those same sons, you can change the plans. Like marrying them to foreign countesses and duchesses.

Naming your sons to bishoprics removes also the penalty for having unlanded sons in elective and primogeniture by the way. I think it applies for the seniority, too, if the penalty is in it, too.

I rarely bother to appoint heirs to regular bishoprics (other than sons) but I pay attention to get the ablest men in prince-bishoprics and prince-archbishoprics. I pay attention for example stewardship if I aim to expand my culture in county level.