Apparently the life expectation in Great Horde is about 30

[Viktor Vaughn]

So I got Cossacks finally and decided to put the tribal horde mechanics to good use, so I did a bunch of Great Horde to Golden to Yuan play throughs. One thing that was common was the likelihood of my rulers dying incredibly young. In one play through when I had low horde unity, which led to tribal succession crises every time a rule died, I had five rulers die in ten years. Each new ruler came from the pretenders through the tribal succession deal. So they all came in around 19/20 years old and would die within a year. so I figured just a run of weirdly catastrophic bad luck so I restarted (something I had to do several times cause I'm not used to central Asia and I suck at the game). In the next play through there were several instances where other very young rulers died within the same year, many died in their thirties. I have had a few rulers that lasted until their fifties, but over three hundred years there is a common trend where rulers die pre-thirties or so. So I've thought there might be some confirmation bias, but I just can't tell.

So after that wall of text, is there something hardcoded in hordes that give them lower life expectancies, or is it as I originally thought, just a weird freakish roll of awful luck?

 

[DarkBlue]

Were they all leaders? Did you send them to battles, esp on the weaker side?

 

[Viktor Vaughn]

Never made my rulers into leaders.

 

[Casko]

could be a bug in your game you're experiencing.
that or you've just been SERIOUSLY unlucky as Hordes should be unstable yes, but the rulers should not be dying that fast

 

[FrogCrusher]

If you're patient enough, mod your game to remove all the events, turn AI off. And sit at speed 5 to have a statistical life expectation.

 

[Roubik]

Currently I am in a multiplayer game as Great Horde and have managed to form Golden Horde. Apart from many many.... many difficulties that I couldn't pass without help on of the most irritating was that my rulers also die at 30-40 years old. And that has caused me to lose plenty of good heirs. I had my rulers as generals in armies, idle in no army and no generals at all... Still, seems that they all died very young very often. I can't remember when was the last time I had a ruler of 60+ years old...

 

[Viengua]

I mean the plural of anecdote is not data, but I've noticed this too

 

[EmagDrolBot]

I'll come in with the counter anecdote that I play hordes a fair bit (Particularly Mongolia and the Jurchen hordes) and haven't noticed this much. I get a few young deaths, but the average life expectancy for my leaders is the 50s or 60s. Had one fantastic 6/6/4 queen live to 76.

 

[Aythne]

This should be stickied in every forum:

RNGs are not truly random. Good RNGs can be indistinguishable enough for most purposes, but they tend to be resource intensive or require constant external inputs. The PseudoRNGs used in gaming are generally based on shorter generated seeds, which gives them the tendency to fall into certain patterns. Combine the human tendency to emphasize the bad things that happen to us, and 99% of “why do forts never siege until 78%”, “why do good heirs die young” posts are explained.

 

[Viktor Vaughn]

Yeah I get the RNG thing; that's not new to me. I've just only noticed this in my multiple horde playthroughs, and thought maybe it was something coded into hordes that isn't in other government types.