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I dunno how I feel about PUs being Europe-only, honestly.

Feels kind of crummy, even with marriages being enabled cross-faith outside of Europe.

It vexes me greatly, mostly because of how junky PUs are in the first place.

However, if you can also diplo-vassal between all non-Christian faiths, I'll take it as a valid trade-off and mostly leave the Euros to their little luck box.
 

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It vexes me greatly, mostly because of how junky PUs are in the first place.

However, if you can also diplo-vassal between all non-Christian faiths, I'll take it as a valid trade-off and mostly leave the Euros to their little luck box.

Yeah, that sounds like a decent trade-off. After all, a pretty big part of the non-Christian faiths was very unlikely to score PUs anyway (namely Sunni and all Hordes, because of +100% heir / succession events).
 

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The good: you can diplo-vassal ROTW easier as far as they are not Christian.

The bad: Ottoman's can't PU Timurids. Hindustan can't PU Ming. And the vice versa.

My first thought is that it is actually a significant buff to big ROTW nations like Ottomans, Timurids and Ming. Release vassal, diplo-annex, profit.

But it is a nerf to everyone else in ROTW.

True is that PUs for Sunni nations were too rare due to the 100% increased change of new heir.
 

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However, if you can also diplo-vassal between all non-Christian faiths, I'll take it as a valid trade-off and mostly leave the Euros to their little luck box.

Same here...sounds like this another (very welcome) boost to the ROTW!
 

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No more timurid PU NOOOOOOOOOOOO
I loved PUing Timurids as Oman and having them as my military lap dog for awhile
Oh, well. Another brilliant strategy/shameless exploit biting the dust?

Bit sad, though. The ONLY game I ever saw a successful Ak Koyunlu was when they PU/inherited one of their neighbors (can't recall if it was QAR or TIM).

<edit> Actually, several Orthodox nations married off their princesses to the likes of AKK and other muslim powers, on a fairly regular basis. Maybe they should be exempt from this restriction against marrying outside their faith, too? And, frankly, they should similarly be ineligible for PUs, IMHO.
 
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After ten to twenty times seeing it, I must ask - what the heck is RotW?
 

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The bad: Ottoman's can't PU Timurids. Hindustan can't PU Ming. And the vice versa.

Actually it is a good thing because such a PU wouldn't have happened in the history... PU in game is based on the European succession law, and the other regions had different rules.
 

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Wiz, how is this handled in the files, for modding purposes?

Religions are set to can_form_personal_unions = yes/no, if no enables expanded RMs
 

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in my current Ming game i wish i could get a decent ally to help me break out of my cold war stand off between orait,shun,and mega Thailand and myself and ghetto vassal march Nepal with both of us allying Korea and japan.
we would M.A.D each other if we DOW'ED the other because of first crushed by the kinda collation,then crushed by Russia while worn out lol.
not to mention almost PU'ed while ming :rolleyes:
now only if i could marry into India/Islam.....
looking forward to marring in AOW
 

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Sweet, thanks for the swift answer. How does that work if you set, say, Orthodox as 'no' then, while the other christians can form PUs?

Set on group, not religion, sorry.
 

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A thought- if a country is party to a personal union, and changes religion group, what would happen?

Union stays. It only prevents formation of new ones.
 

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Making sure the garbage luck based mechanic that bypasses all other normal game restrictions is European only? That's not even subtle.

I like playing the RotW myself, but it's unjust of you to imply that their changes (since release) have been focused on buffing Europe, when many of them have had the reverse effect. In fact, this change is itself as much of a buff to RotW as it is a nerf. AI PU's often don't last anyway, and players probably benefit as much from the gain in vassalization options as they lose in PU chances.