AoN: Germany and Italy

[Zaan]

Well, I was the threadmaster for the unifications but the threads did not attract much interest, Hope they will now. Post your events, leaders, monarchs for the german and italian states, and for a Unified Italy and Germany. I'll post some stuff from the old thread here.

TO DO LIST
- political breakdown (screenhots af the area would be helpful)
- monarch list for german states + prussia
- monarch list for italian states + sardinia
- new flags
- leader lists for german states + prussia
- leader listis for italian states + sardnia
- Unification events
- How to handle "People's Spring" ?

 

[Zaan]

POLITICAL MAP OF THE REGION
Austria list is work of Celedhring, I took the liberty of inserting it here.

Austria

1820 setup
National Cultures: German, Slovene, Ruthenian, Czech, Magyar
State religion: Catholic
Austria is HRE (German Confederation)
Tech levels: ?
Relations: Russia +75
England +50
France +50

Core provinces: Tirol, Salzburg, Steiermark, Kairn, Austria, Ostmark

provinces

Lombardia (Italian, Catholic)
Mantua (Italian, Catholic)
Venice (Italian, Catholic): Fine Arts Academy

Tirol (German, Catholic)
Salzburg (German, Catholic)
Steiermark (German, Catholic)
Austria (German, Catholic): CoT
Ostmark (German, Catholic)
Krain (Slovene, Catholic)
Istria (Slovene, Catholic): Shipyard
Dalmatia (Croat, Catholic)

Bohemia (Czech, Catholic)
Moravia (Czech, Catholic
Erz (German, Catholic)
Sudeten (German, Catholic)

Odenburg (German, Catholic)
Pressburg (Slovak, Catholic)
Carpathia (Slovak, Catholic)
Magyar (Magyar, Catholic)
Pest (Magyar, Catholic)
Maros (Magyar, Catholic)
Croatia (Croat, Catholic)
Banat (Magyar, Catholic)
Ruthenia (Ruthene, Orthodox)
Transylvania (Romanian, Orthodox)

Krakow (Polish, Catholic) - NOTE: may change to free
Galitzien (Ruthenian, Orthodox)

1853 setup
No territorial changes. Some manufactories should be added (to be determined).
In an alliance with Russia
Some national cultures (most likely Magyar) will be lost.

1878 setup
Name changed to "Austria-Hungary" (flag change)
Lombardia, Mantua and Venice lost.
Bosnia is a vassall
In an alliance with Germany
Some national cultures (yet to be defined) will be lost
Added core provinces: Odenburg, Pressburg, Carpathia, Magyar, Pest, Maros, Croatia, Banat, Ruthenia, Transylvania (as result of the implementation of Dualistic Monarchy)

ITALY
Sardinia
1820 setup
Cultures: Italian, French
state religion: catholic
Provinces:
Piemonte (capital): italian/catholic
Liguria: italian/catholic
Sardinia: italian/catholic
Savoie: french/catholic
Core provs: Piemonte, Sardnina, Liguria

1853 setup
no changes

1878 setup
name changed to "Italy";
French culture lost
Provinces: (all italian/catholic)
Rome (capital)
Sicily
Messina
Apuila
Naples
Marche
Siena
Firenze
Romagna
Emilia
Mantua
Lomabardia
Veneto: shipyard
Liguria
Sardinia
Piemonte
Core provs: as above + Istria
Congress of Berlin colonial terit.: Somalia (to be defined when i see the area) Libia (likewise)

Realm of Two Sicilies
1820 setup
cultures: Italian
state relgion: catholic
Provnces (all Italian/catholic):
Naples (capital)
Apuila
Mesinna
Sicily
Core provs: as above
1853 no changes, became a part of Sardinia/Italy in 1860

Papal States
1820 setup
cultures: Italian
state religion: catholic
Provinces: (all Italian/catholic)
Rome (capital)
Marche
Romagna
Core provs: as above
1853 alliance with France, Marche and Romagna to Italy in 1860, Rome to Italy in 1870 historically

Tuscany
1820 setup
cultures: Italian
state religion: catholic
Provinces: (all Italian/catholic)
Firenze (capital)
Siena
Core provs: as above
1853 no changes, became a part of Italy in 1860

Modena
1820 setup
cultures: Italian
state religion: catholic
provinces: (all Italian/catholic)
Emilia (capital)
core provs: as above
1853 no changes, became a part of Italy in 1860

GERMANY
NOTE: Provinces are German/protestan unless noted otherwise

Prussia
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Brandenburg (capital)
Memel
Prussia
Danzig
Poznan
Hinterpommern
Kustrin
Silesia
Magdeburg
Anhalt
Munster
Kleves
Koln
core provs: as above, further will be gained through events

1853 setup
military alliance with all the german states (to reflect the North-German commonwealth). Added core: Vorpommern, Hessen, Mecklenburg, Hannover

1878 setup
Name changed to Germany; possible flag change; core provs on all German porvs plus Alsace and Lorraine; Alsace and Lorraine to Germany; given territ. in Africa (have to wait for an exact map, if someone could send me a screenshot, through e-mail in my signature, i would be in debt)

Mecklenburg
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Vorpommern
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Hamburg
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Mecklenburg
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Holstein
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Holstein
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Hannover
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Hannover (capital)
Bremen
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Oldenburg
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Oldenburg
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Hessen
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Hessen
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Nassau
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Mainz
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Hamburg
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Mecklenburg
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Baden
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: catholic
provinces:
Baden (rel. - catholic)
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Saxony
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Sachsen
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Thuringen
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Wurzburg
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Wirrtemberg
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: protestant
provinces:
Wirrtemberg
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

Bavaria
1820 setup
cultures: German
state religion: catholic
provinces:
Bayern (capital) (rel. - catholic)
Ansbach (rel. catholic)
Pfalz
core: as above
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

NOTE: all ideas for manufactories. shipyard and COTs are welcome. Please don't quote this post

 

[Zaan]

Garibaldi and events

Garibaldi by Rekcall

historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = xxxxx }
category = general
name = "Giuseppe Garibaldi"
startdate = {
year=1848
}
deathdate = {
year=1880
}
rank = 1
movement = 5
fire = 3
shock = 5
siege = 2
remark = "Famous for his 'Garibaldinian Assault' shock tactic."

Events for Italian states by me

ITALY
1. Founding of "Young Italia"

event = {
id =
trigger = {
NOT = { event = 17000 }
random = no
country = [all italian nations]
name = "Founding of "Young Italia""
desc = "Giuseppe Mazzini, an Italian nationalist, created the "Young Italia" national unification movement in Marseille in 1831."
style = 5
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1831 }
offset = 350
deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1831 }
action_a = { #ok#
name = "Support the "Young Italia" movement"
command = { type = stability value = +1 }
command = { tpye = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = +1 }
command = { type = taxvalue which = -2 value = +2 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -50 }
}
action_b = #outlaw#
name = "Outlaw the "Young Italia" movment"
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revoltrisk value = 2 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = +50 }
}
}

2. Reforms of Pius IX
event = {
id =
trigger = {
NOT = { event = 17000 }
random = no
country = PAP
name = "Reforms of Pius IX"
desc = "In 1846 the somewhat liberal pope Pius IX, decided to reform the Papal States. He eased on censorship and also brought some minor reforms in the most medevial and feudal country in Europe in the XIX century."
style = 5
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1846 }
offset = 358
action_a = #enact#
name = "Enact the reforms"
command = { type = domestic which = NARROWMINDED value = -5 } [i'm not sure, but is the move here toward innovativeness]
command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -2 } [likewise]
command = { type = domestic which = MERCANTILISM value = -2} [likewise]
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = infra value = +600 }
command = { type = trade value = +600 }
}
action_b = #disband#
name = "The Papacy will stay as it is"
command = { type = domestic which = NARROWMINDED value = +2 }
command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = +2 }
command = { type = stability value = +1 }
command = { type = infra value = -200 }
command = { type = trade value = -200 }
}
}

3. "People's Spring" in Austria and Italy
event = {
id =
trigger = {}
random = no
country = [all Italian principalities, Italy and Austia]
name = "People's Spring"
desc = "In 1848 the revolts that started in Paris spread all across europe with a mission to remove feudalism forever. The following wave of nationalistic uprisings became known as "People's Spring"."
style = 5
date = { day = 28 month = February year = 1848 }
offset = 10
action_a = { #ok#
name = "My Lord! The people are rebelling all over the land!"
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 10 value = 5 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 } [1 revolt for Italian principalities]
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 } [4 revolts in Italy]
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 } [6 revolts in Austria plus they should get them in Hungary but htat's left to the Balkani thread ppl; plus specially for Austria]
command = { type = revolt which = 389 } [Lombardia]
command = { type = revolt which = 370 } [Veneto]
}

4. Camillo Cavour
event = {
id =
trigger = {
atwar = no
NOT = { event = 17000 }
}
random = no
country = SAV [Tag used to create Sardinia]
name = "Camillo Cavour"
desc = "Camillo Cavour (1810-1861) was the prime minister and foreign affairs minister in the Sardinian parliament. Sardnia was the onyl country to be left with a democratic constitiution after the turmoil of the "Pepole's Spring". Cavour wanted to unify Italy under Piemont/Sardinia, he knew tho that the Italians weren't that strong to face Austria, and that was the chief reason he joined the Crimean War on the French and English side."
style = 4
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1858 }
offset = 358
choice_a = { #appoint#
name = "An excellent minister"
command = { type = alliance which = FRA }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = +150 }
command = { type = cassusbelli which = HAB value = 48 }
command = { type = ADM which = 9 value = 36 }
command = { type = DIP which = 9 value = 36 }
command = { type = MIL which = 1 value = 36 }
}
choice_b = { #reject#
name = "We'll be fine without him"
command = { }
}
}

 

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Looks good mamut, this is the new forum for discussion? Question... is there any aspect in particular you need research done on? I have plenty of time and resources here at the university, and i am a history major...

 

[Zaan]

Originally posted by Lord Joseph
Looks good mamut, this is the new forum for discussion? Question... is there any aspect in particular you need research done on? I have plenty of time and resources here at the university, and i am a history major...

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GLORY! Someone answered me!!! Now with your questions
- Yes this is the NEW and OFFICIAL (I have Presoni's sealof approval ) discussion on this matter.
- Yes I would love some help asI'm standed dead with 1.01.If you could help me with event scripting and mostly event debugging I would be in great debt. I believe you have ICQ, so once you read this we should have a discussion there (I'm always Invisible )

 

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1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

You guys really do great work. I appreciate your efforts and I am not very much into your project, so it might be that 1878 is a kind of starting date for a scenario...So if the following has certain reasons of gameplay, forget my post, just give me a short line of information...

Germany was founded in 1871 during the Franco-German war... so why do the German minors join Germany in 1878??

Not to be totally useless, I offer my help in researching German and European history, as this is a kind of hobby to me...

Pako

 

[Zaan]

Originally posted by Pako
1853 as Prussia, 1878 part of Germany

You guys really do great work. I appreciate your efforts and I am not very much into your project, so it might be that 1878 is a kind of starting date for a scenario...So if the following has certain reasons of gameplay, forget my post, just give me a short line of information...

Germany was founded in 1871 during the Franco-German war... so why do the German minors join Germany in 1878??

Not to be totally useless, I offer my help in researching German and European history, as this is a kind of hobby to me...

Pako

The date is because the AoN is to be divided into, at least, three scenarios starting in 1815, 1848, and the third one balancing somewhere between 1880 and 1884, but earlier it was 1878, that's why it is as it is.

 

[Zaan]

Oh, and I apprecieate any help, just post everything that comes to mind

 

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here is my input... use the code function so the events are easier to read

 

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Finally, we did it! The old thread is closed... gone... dead... WO HOO!

 

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Note: Wasn't Libya captured from Turkey in 1911???

 

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For Italy... there has to be an event that can give whoever owns most of Italy the shields, but I don't think it should be limitted to Piedmont, as there very easily could have been another unifier... but the Papal States shouldn't be available...

 

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This has been a dead thread, but I am willing to write some unification events. But I do need some help!

 

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A few things:

Anhalt, in the Anhalt province, was independent of Prussia untill the German Empire was proclaimed.

Perhaps Wuzburg should go to Prussia? They owned the city of Erfurt.
If it doesn't go to Prussia, then it should go to Bavaria since they were the ones who aquired the Duchy of Wuzburg around 1778.

Pflaz was Bavarian, but the capital shouldn't be Mainz, which was entirely under the control of Hesse-Darmstadt.


I don't get why some imperial (free cities?) cites are being represented, while others are not. Hamburg, Bremen, Lubeck were all "imperial" cities, but only Hamburg is represented. Lubeck is in the same province as Hamburg, so that's fine, but Bremen was certainly not part of Hanover.


Hanover should start owned by GB. The two didn't split up until the Victorian Era which can be represented through events.


Shouldn't Firenze / Siena start under the control of Austria? At the very least they should start as a vassal, but their joining of Italy could best be represented as rebels defecting from Austrian control to Italian.

 

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Ok, just consult the various threads for ID ranges, possible country ID changes, and just post events in this thread.

Originally posted by Dominus
I am SERIOUSLY.... and I do mean that, working on the unification of Germany. I need to know who and how to get in contact with other people working on this... ICQ or whatever (I need to redownload ICQ so I have no number right now). Right now I have 9 pages of notes am working on events, both for the northern confederation and for the possible side path if Bavaria had not switched sides to join rest of the german states after the Seven Weeks War (War between Austria and Prussia). Yes sad I know, but I really want to get this working, its become an obsession.

 

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Libya was not Italian until 1911, before that it was Turkish so can take it away from Italy. And Nice, Corsica and Illyria should be core provinces too...

 

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Do you guys have any idea when the scenario will be out?

 

[Vulture]

NOPE

 

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Does anyone even listen to what I say???

 

[Vulture]

Yes, of course. Why do you think otherwise. I try to read all threads