Anyone with tips on Byzantium in 1.8

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I wish I could ask the AI for tips on playing Byzantium because it seems to know how it's done... I played my first game in AoW as Songhai (not sure why, just got an urge) and after 60-years I decided to look at the world. I expected to see Byzantium swallowed by the Ottomans but to my utter surprise Byzantium owned Constantinople, Edirne, Macedonia, Thessaly, Athens, Smugla, Chios and Naxos.

Lol.
 

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Defeat them with a Galley horde and you should be fine. I took religious and quantity as my ideas.
 

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Kinda hard to get the Venetian islands and Rhodes now, but there's Chios instead. Genoa doesn't put up much of a fight and you can ally Crimea by rivaling them. Thanks to the AI being what it is, owning Chios makes war with the Ottomans much easier. The Ottomans will usually move most of their army to occupy it, especially once you destroyed their fleet and blocked the straits. You can easily trap them there by splitting your fleet and occupy all of Anatolia.

Although in my game the Ottos also got hit with both Bulgarian rebels and a smaller Orthodox uprising, which made things considerably easier.
 
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Religious and quantity ideas are a must for Byzantium. Naval forcelimits will be important too especially late game when you'll likely be fighting a lot of wars with Spain as they tend to nab parts of North Africa besides their Italian holdings. Manpower is not going to be an issue, I figure even without Quantity you'll have plenty to spare.

Funny that when you start the game, winning your first war against Ottomans is actually the easiest part. The actually hard part comes when you are going to attack Anatolia, that can go badly wrong if you have bad timing/RNG.

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I was myself stopped in Italy. I fought three wars against Austria/HRE and never got through, eventually I gave up and dug in.

With my Italian ambitions more or less dead thanks to a huge Brandenburg blob who likes to cooperate with Austria, little I have left than finishing off northwestern Africa and expanding my turf in India where I recently gained a foothold on the Indus river.

I'm very happy at how those Tunisian/Libyan minors turned out. I freed them from Tunisia, I could have conquered them but wouldn't have made as pretty borders as just taking the coast.
 

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I wish I could ask the AI for tips on playing Byzantium because it seems to know how it's done... I played my first game in AoW as Songhai (not sure why, just got an urge) and after 60-years I decided to look at the world. I expected to see Byzantium swallowed by the Ottomans but to my utter surprise Byzantium owned Constantinople, Edirne, Macedonia, Thessaly, Athens, Smugla, Chios and Naxos.

Lol.

It's possible that Byz got swallowed but then Ottoman lost a war against, say, Venice+Hungary+HRE, then was forced to release Byz?
 

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Good advice: WHATEVER YOU DO, NEVER LET THE MAMLUKS CONQUER ANATOLIA.
I let it happen in my current Byzantium game, and now I have to conquer the entirety of Anatolia from the Mamluks (except for Asia Minor).