Anyone playing with matri-marriage disabled?

[DukeDayve]

I decided to play with matri-marriage disabled (in the new rules). I also decided to halve the diplomatic range too because what the hell, why not?

I'm noticing sneaky countesses, duchesses, queens and emperors all over the map going to devious lengths to make sure their children are born with their mother's dynasty, circumventing my ban on matri-marriage! They're all marrying lowborn nobodies with terrible stats and traits.

The Byzantine Empress is funny. Konstantios Isauros (the emperor on the throne in 769) died quickly from the scourge of the green skull. His weak son quickly followed in his footsteps and died of the green skull disease, but not before his wife had given birth to a girl, who became empress at 0-years old. She was still empress at 16 and, unable to marry any lowborn men, married her father's younger brother! She married her uncle to get around my matri-marriage ban!

She's had 8 kids so far, 3 girls and 5 boys. All 5 boys died before 16 due to being inbred (3 died of cancer). 2 of the girls are inbred, but not the firstborn who will be empress herself eventually (she should survive a while, she's not inbred or anything).

I wonder what devious tactics she will use to get around my matri-marriage ban!

 

[Azarias59]

I decided to play with matri-marriage disabled (in the new rules). I also decided to halve the diplomatic range too because what the hell, why not?

I'm noticing sneaky countesses, duchesses, queens and emperors all over the map going to devious lengths to make sure their children are born with their mother's dynasty, circumventing my ban on matri-marriage! They're all marrying lowborn nobodies with terrible stats and traits.

The Byzantine Empress is funny. Konstantios Isauros (the emperor on the throne in 769) died quickly from the scourge of the green skull. His weak son quickly followed in his footsteps and died of the green skull disease, but not before his wife had given birth to a girl, who became empress at 0-years old. She was still empress at 16 and, unable to marry any lowborn men, married her father's younger brother! She married her uncle to get around my matri-marriage ban!

She's had 8 kids so far, 3 girls and 5 boys. All 5 boys died before 16 due to being inbred (3 died of cancer). 2 of the girls are inbred, but not the firstborn who will be empress herself eventually (she should survive a while, she's not inbred or anything).

I wonder what devious tactics she will use to get around my matri-marriage ban!

This... is amazing. I'll have to try it out.

 

[DukeDayve]

Oh dear... the firstborn daughter married the Ailgolfing king of Italy. Looks like we'll soon have a Lombard Catholic Byzantine emperor, and he'll be ruling a united Italy-ERE!

Unless she legitimizes her bastard son she had with a lover!

 

[Andrzej2]

I play with matrilinear disabled but what you say isn't true for me. In my game when princess marry lowborn their children have no dynasty.

 

[Fitzjacob]

I'm noticing sneaky countesses, duchesses, queens and emperors all over the map going to devious lengths to make sure their children are born with their mother's dynasty, circumventing my ban on matri-marriage! They're all marrying lowborn nobodies with terrible stats and traits.

Isn't this an actual matrilineal marriage which is supposed to be prohibited? How is that allowed?

I play with matrilinear disabled but what you say isn't true for me. In my game when princess marry lowborn their children have no dynasty.

My experience is the same. Usually the marriage isn't allowed, but when it is (for reasons unknown) the children becomes lowborn.

The Byzantine Empress is funny. Konstantios Isauros (the emperor on the throne in 769) died quickly from the scourge of the green skull. His weak son quickly followed in his footsteps and died of the green skull disease, but not before his wife had given birth to a girl, who became empress at 0-years old. She was still empress at 16 and, unable to marry any lowborn men, married her father's younger brother! She married her uncle to get around my matri-marriage ban!

This sort of inbreeding is exactly what I hoped for when I tried it out, but unfortunately I've had an entirely different experience. Instead the AI is incredibly reckless with its marriages, often losing all their territory to some other dynasty rather than trying to keep it in the family by marrying some available cousin. They often married outside of the realm which of course added to the mess. It really serves the Premyslids though, more often than not female rulers and heirs are married to the bohemians.

I'm going to play with matrilineal marriages on in the future. It's a fun addition though, hopefully the devs will work a bit on the AI marriage tactics and I just might give it another go in the future.

 

[Chlodio]

Matrilineal ban isn't completed... I had even in which my special female marshal got matrilineal marriage with former marshal.

 

[Fitzjacob]

Matrilineal ban isn't completed... I had even in which my special female marshal got matrilineal marriage with former marshal.

This is by event I believe. It is forced if you accept the impressive woman as the game puts it, regardless of whether you allow matri-marriages or not. Actually, I'm rather pleased with the event; it's a rather severe, but appropriate trade off.

 

[DukeDayve]

Isn't this an actual matrilineal marriage which is supposed to be prohibited? How is that allowed?

No they're just normal marrying lowborn men. I assumed this would make the child be born with her dynasty because the male has none, but instead I'm seeing legitimate children of countesses/duchesses/queens/empresses with no dynasty because they normal-married lowborns.