Anyone have any ideas on this crazy liberty desire statistics

[Albert&Al]

As you can see in the screenshot

this relative army power of all vassals give my subject 100000% liberty desire, meanwhile

this crazy -2147445.0% give another subject -100% liberty desire, and here is my forcelimit and total development

I have totally no idea how this relative army power of all vassals functions

 

[grommile]

This is the power of integer overflow at work.

There is no way for you to fix this; only Paradox can fix this, by adding some "sanity checks" to the power calculations.

 

[Nostalgium]

As @grommile said, integer overflow. Basically, the number went above/below the max of the number range and broke.

 

[ImperatorRoman]

Essentially, your army strength vs your vassals grew so large that the integer value overflowed to a negative value, and now the game thinks that your vassals armies are much, much stronger than your own. Hence the incredibly high liberty desire.

 

[Junuxx]

The reason it inflated so much could also be related to your mods (I see it's 1831).

 

[grommile]

The reason it inflated so much could also be related to your mods (I see it's 1831).

Pretty sure there are ways to make this happen in vanilla. 2k force limit (due to 25k dev) does some pretty weird things.

 

[jonjowett]

Is this immediately after loading a save? If so, try waiting for the next monthly tick - it might fix the issue. (Well, unless you get a load of rivals supporting your subjects' independence because they're temporarily at +100% LD...)

 

[YellowPress]

Isnt this just vassals vs hre vassals? A long time bug

 

[Albert&Al]

The reason it inflated so much could also be related to your mods (I see it's 1831).

it's easy to do so, whether or not using a mod; the game just limit the time by a single line code

 

[Albert&Al]

Is this immediately after loading a save? If so, try waiting for the next monthly tick - it might fix the issue. (Well, unless you get a load of rivals supporting your subjects' independence because they're temporarily at +100% LD...)

i didn't notice immediately since I always have newly conquered subjects, usually it'll drop down after a while, but this time I found something crazy happened

 

[subzero12479]

The reason it inflated so much could also be related to your mods (I see it's 1831).

You dont need mods to play after 1821 on a non ironman save.

 

[Runite Drill]

In addition to the helpful suggestions above, I'm guessing the ones giving -2147445.0% are your subjects in the HRE, whilst the others are not.

 

[Albert&Al]

In addition to the helpful suggestions above, I'm guessing the ones giving -2147445.0% are your subjects in the HRE, whilst the others are not.

no, I dismantled hre before I took ottoman in grasp, and all my subject have similar development and hence forcelimit (except my colonies). and only 6 (3 newly forced vassal, 3 was supported independence by 1 or 2 small nations) are +100000%, the rest are all -100% (with -2417445.0% relative power)

 

[Albert&Al]

This is the power of integer overflow at work.

There is no way for you to fix this; only Paradox can fix this, by adding some "sanity checks" to the power calculations.

I guess so, but I wander why, like poland has around 240k armies, and all my vassals have similar development so i guess they're also similar in force limit. so with 25 vassal in total, there are about 6000k armies held by my vassals (3 times of my army size). the difference was not that great to cause this overflow (assuming there is a division on the calculation) unless 4000k was already causing the overflow