Anyone else watching BattleTech climb the Steam Top Sellers list?
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I quest if that page is really accurate.
It had Skyrim Special Edition as selling higher than much newer, more popular games.
It had Skyrim Special Edition as selling higher than much newer, more popular games.
You never know the cause when it's Skyrim. Maybe even some new mod. Whats the benefit for Valve when the list isn't accurate? I think that would be quite a PR disaster.
But how can anyone check to see if it's accurate at all? valve is not going to release any raw data for people to check with.
Nah, we checked and it's working fine.
Steamspy does, apparently, have owner numbers at the moment. Which, considering Steamspy doesn't have all of the Kickstarter backers, is a rather easy way of figuring out how many 'new' people have been acquired.
https://steamspy.com/search.php?s=battletech
https://steamspy.com/search.php?s=battletech
Those numbers have been the same for months. Does it actually count pre-orders as people owning the game?
Um... It says "1,524 ± 2,111". Apparently, there's a possibility that a negative number of copies of the game were sold; that's not going to help with "in success"!
Depends on whether the ID that Steamspy has posted at the moment is any different than the version given to the reviewers. For all we know, that -2,111 owners could have been the review copies that were sent out.
I wouldn't be too concerned about the numbers now though; they've got a month to rack up sales. Much like how the Kickstarter dropped in backers adding on in the middle of the funding cycle, and then racking up lots of money in the last three days.
On my steam page, its all the way at the bottom at updates and offers, 10th "element" the first element being the sliding featured and recommended and the second element special offers.
Hope it does get displayed more prominently in the future.
Hope it does get displayed more prominently in the future.
It does not say "-2,111", it says "± 2,111", "plus/minus 2,111", there is a big difference... seeing as "± 2,111" could mean just that, anywhere from 1524 +2111 owners, to 1524 -2111 owners. All this number is, the "± 2,111", is a standard statistical margin of error thing that you use for statistical quantity of what ever it may be.
Also, SteamSpy them selves say that: "Additionally, stats for games with smaller samples are very unreliable. I wouldn't trust any number below 30,000." So, in a sence the current numbers for BattleTech on SteamSpy could just be considered to be placeholders untill the "real" numbers (30000+ or so) actually start to show up in the coming X time (not sure how often they update the numbers).
Usually error margins are not greater than the base number they apply to. ie: 123 ± 25 or 12,539 ± 2405.
Plus those figures had been unchanged in Steam for at least two months because I saw them early January when someone noticed that people were reportedly playing the full game.
I think they are just garbage numbers and don't actually reflect the truth about how many people have pre-ordered this game.
Well.
While im both a backer and hope for HBSs success im not really a friend of pre-ordering (which i see differently than backing)
Due to experience in Gamedev myself i can attest that Steamspy is normally fairly accurate and can be used as a basis of discussion no problem.
However it may indeed not reflect unreleased copyies as of now.
While im both a backer and hope for HBSs success im not really a friend of pre-ordering (which i see differently than backing)
Due to experience in Gamedev myself i can attest that Steamspy is normally fairly accurate and can be used as a basis of discussion no problem.
However it may indeed not reflect unreleased copyies as of now.
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Just peeked in and it's at #20 at the moment.
But it's no surprise to see it wobbling around the list throughout a single day, or for it to have a big spike right after it becomes available. Heck, I still remember seeing Final Fantasy 13 shoot to near the top of the chart when it was released on Steam, and plummet to below #100 the very next day.
But it's no surprise to see it wobbling around the list throughout a single day, or for it to have a big spike right after it becomes available. Heck, I still remember seeing Final Fantasy 13 shoot to near the top of the chart when it was released on Steam, and plummet to below #100 the very next day.
I think it is pretty good to be around the Top 20 for two days considering it is about Preorders and the Marketing has just begun. Anyway I hope we see a lot of sales for this. 
Me too. I think I discovered the game a few weeks after the Kickstarter's ended. Then I forgot about it until PDS got the publishing rights. Hoped they would have got publishing rights for PGI's game as well. Pre-ordered this on Steam yesterday.
From the SteamSpy About page, bolded for emphasis:
It seems that Closed Beta Test is different from Early Access from Steam's point of view. CBT is treated as preorder and doesn't show up in Steam Web API at all. The moment game goes live or moves to Early Access, stats will start to show up.
So, if I'm to interpret this correctly, we would just have to come back on release day to see the owners spike up before all of the kickstarter backers come back in, to have a better idea of how many actually pre-ordered.
It seems that Closed Beta Test is different from Early Access from Steam's point of view. CBT is treated as preorder and doesn't show up in Steam Web API at all. The moment game goes live or moves to Early Access, stats will start to show up.
So, if I'm to interpret this correctly, we would just have to come back on release day to see the owners spike up before all of the kickstarter backers come back in, to have a better idea of how many actually pre-ordered.
I don't know how accurate SteamSpy is, especially with regards to unreleased games that it can't check number of players against.
That said it reports preorders for the new Total War game is around 17k, and I think we can generally agree that Total War is a bigger fish in the pond, and this is without Paradox doing literally any marketing that I have seen yet (specifically adding it to their weekly lineup). So things should hopefully keep climbing!
That said it reports preorders for the new Total War game is around 17k, and I think we can generally agree that Total War is a bigger fish in the pond, and this is without Paradox doing literally any marketing that I have seen yet (specifically adding it to their weekly lineup). So things should hopefully keep climbing!
