So all this time it has been because of propaganda that I believed the institutionalized enslavement of human beings based on the color of their skin was racist. Damn it Lincoln, you tricked me again!
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No worries. HoI3 is a wonderful game with great potential for precisely this reason: the new models they have created allow for a much better foundation of realism. Rest assured, it will be patched.
Roosevelt never lost a Southern State. Most of them went 70%+ for him. Couple times he got over 90%.
Naval A.I. just needs some help. should probably have 100% detection of transport groups larger than 3 that are within 2 sea zones of friendly land.
Good job canada at protecting Ottawa agains the evil german! Wait... was there anything worth protecting? They should have protected Montreal
Pfft, Montreal? No No No.... Toronto they should of been at Dennison arming and defending Toronto!
Yep. That was back when the South was called "the Solid South" and was a Democratic base. That was before Strom Thurmond led the Dixiecrat walkout of the national convention to protest the national party's backing of civil rights legislation (among other things), and before the Republican Party's "Southern Strategy" under Richard Nixon.
So all this time it has been because of propaganda that I believed the institutionalized enslavement of human beings based on the color of their skin was racist. Damn it Lincoln, you tricked me again!
Consider the fact that before and during the civil war it was perfectly legal and sactioned by the very government you claim was against it all along.
Yes you were tricked....and still are being tricked. Hell Lincoln in his speeches even said black people were not equal when he was running for a state senate seat. He still believed that up until this death.....Nobility had nothing to do with the position the North took.
It was a propaganda tool to try to make those enemies seem like unhuman bastards so people would totally ignore their real greviences...
Well, it seems far fetched that he did this. However I'll give him kudos for doing it anyway.
I was taking another route and experimenting with Political influence.
I wanted USA's huge Oil reserves on my side... and although I knew I wouldn't get them to join the Axis without a full year of it. I was able to get them to the quarter way mark within the four months of playing. (ish... I didn't play the FULL four months)
This involved Political influence and espionage influencing a supporting party.
Other than that. I subjugated Poland within September... (Taking Warsaw... past that most of their divisions had no strength...) and it took a week into October for Poland to be mine.
I declared war on Belgium since the French front had stagnated...
Declared war on the Dutch.
Had them within a month for both.
By this time the Italian Blitzkrieg had taken ALL of Southern France (Using the tip of the Swiss border as a middle mark and were about to meet my forces at the Magniot line when I took Paris.)
I still had a month and a half left of play since it was November. I was toying with the idea of attempting a war in USSR for fun. but I don't think the Japanese would've been fond of that.
Yugoslavia would've been a better target. O well, I stopped playing there, and since there is no 'save' option on the demo. That's as far as I got with ze Germans.
Quick question, Is Italy suppose to inherit Southern France?
I was taking another route and experimenting with Political influence.
I wanted USA's huge Oil reserves on my side... and although I knew I wouldn't get them to join the Axis without a full year of it. I was able to get them to the quarter way mark within the four months of playing. (ish... I didn't play the FULL four months)
This involved Political influence and espionage influencing a supporting party.
Other than that. I subjugated Poland within September... (Taking Warsaw... past that most of their divisions had no strength...) and it took a week into October for Poland to be mine.
I declared war on Belgium since the French front had stagnated...
Declared war on the Dutch.
Had them within a month for both.
By this time the Italian Blitzkrieg had taken ALL of Southern France (Using the tip of the Swiss border as a middle mark and were about to meet my forces at the Magniot line when I took Paris.)
I still had a month and a half left of play since it was November. I was toying with the idea of attempting a war in USSR for fun. but I don't think the Japanese would've been fond of that.
Yugoslavia would've been a better target. O well, I stopped playing there, and since there is no 'save' option on the demo. That's as far as I got with ze Germans.
Quick question, Is Italy suppose to inherit Southern France?
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People act like the Civil War was based on the South having slaves.. no, Lincoln used that as a political tool to launch a war to keep the South from seceding. Only 4% of the people in the south owned slaves in 1860, nobody ever mentions that
Of course Lincoln was a racist. It's widely known that he viewed blacks as inferior. You'd have been hard pressed to find anyone back then who didn't have what we would call a racist viewpoint today, including the most ardent abolitionists. Most of the south's "legitimate grievances" were, in fact, related to slavery. The notion that war was a bout states' rights is only true to the extant that the biggest right the southern states cared about was slavery. The fact that Lincoln himself was not an abolitionist just points to the irrational hysteria on the part of the secessionists, who were utterly convinced that he would push an agenda he had never actually supported.
Yes your correct, Sunfighter, and the fact that he stopped sending slaves, to the south 2 years into the war. after gettysburg when they were winning. Before this lincoln was sending them to the south if they escaped north. His whole plan for reconstruction was resetteling the blacks in africa anyway
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he just moded it to make it possible, also if you want to try this without loading saves every time your fleet gets intercepted with all those fat transports, go for it. The US navy protected its coasts, and without a major investment in ships germany could never invade the USA.
Remember Hitler didn't have a save game feature.
he just moded it to make it possible, also if you want to try this without loading saves every time your fleet gets intercepted with all those fat transports, go for it. The US navy protected its coasts, and without a major investment in ships germany could never invade the USA.
Remember Hitler didn't have a save game feature.
lol i always thought that when i think of stalingrad...save game b4 trying airsupply of pocket
He also couldn't eliminate a navy by editing a txt file
lol... Now I'm picturing Hitler hunched over a computer madly editing his history folder. :rofl:
I think this was a secret weapons project they were working on lolHe also couldn't eliminate a navy by editing a txt file
I’ve been trying to ignore this “guns around the country " posts as I think they go a bit OT… but since there are so many of them by now.
It depends of many things, but defeating a country instituted government/army is one thing... occupying it, is another as we knowo
No militia or red neck with a gun would pose much of a threat to a 40’s Wehrmacht peloton (much less a nowadays professional one).
After the "war machine" had gone by… than it would become a problem if they had local and outside support …
Well, moving along… "Guns behind a window" aren’t invasion stoppers/fighters, although they can become good informers
So this “guns around the country” factor that some of you are talking about is taken into account with partisan level within the game (lowers combat efficiency, infrastructure level and so on… think it’s too low, just up-it a bit)
It depends of many things, but defeating a country instituted government/army is one thing... occupying it, is another as we know
oNo militia or red neck with a gun would pose much of a threat to a 40’s Wehrmacht peloton (much less a nowadays professional one).
After the "war machine" had gone by… than it would become a problem if they had local and outside support …
Before someone has any ideas,comes here clamming that from behind his kitchen sink together with his beer mates and his Wal-Mart stocked assault rifle, he could/can defeat a professional (or experienced) “rolling” battalion… just think what would happen after the 1st shot was fired (if it was) from that window... read what for instance the IJA did in China and how they handled “shots from behind windows“… yes, that’s right, better go for the everglades and organize and do/join a resistance movement And those are covered in the HoI series
The partisan movements were formed in its backbone by soldiers “overtaken by the war” after the front had moved away… not by “farmers” with guns behind the lines… the “farmers” can take part of the partisan movement (farmers are better at farming and feeding the movement or farming poppy and/or funding it it all depends where you are at), but to be more than an annoyance it needs some good tactical training/thinking in its backbone (ie professional soldiers) and good support.
There are quite a few good books about partisan war behind the German lines between 42-44 in the Eastern front… the brutality permitted those days for both sides, would be hard to consider by nowadays communication (media) standards (it would need many Riade com. centers just to quiet it a little bit).
And those are covered in the HoI series The partisan movements were formed in its backbone by soldiers “overtaken by the war” after the front had moved away… not by “farmers” with guns behind the lines… the “farmers” can take part of the partisan movement (farmers are better at farming and feeding the movement or farming poppy and/or funding it it all depends where you are at
), but to be more than an annoyance it needs some good tactical training/thinking in its backbone (ie professional soldiers) and good support. There are quite a few good books about partisan war behind the German lines between 42-44 in the Eastern front… the brutality permitted those days for both sides, would be hard to consider by nowadays communication (media) standards (it would need many Riade com. centers
just to quiet it a little bit).
Well, moving along… "Guns behind a window" aren’t invasion stoppers/fighters, although they can become good informers
So this “guns around the country” factor that some of you are talking about is taken into account with partisan level within the game (lowers combat efficiency, infrastructure level and so on… think it’s too low, just up-it a bit
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yes but this kind of thing worked against germany quite abit in the balkans and of course russia and france tying down alot of manpower that was needed, and i dont think they all had millitary backgrounds, a high percentage didint. even the Volksturmn inflicted alot of casulties on russia in 45 and volksgrenedeir divisons were of this type of manpower
Well, considering the USA was basically created by a bunch of ppl joining militias with nothing but their own guns and clothes, and kicking out the most powerful force in the world at the time, i'd say it still is plausable - I know the US had help, however the US would have help in this demo far exceeding what was given to them in the 1770s-83. Furthermore, if you dont think random people with guns can kick out a superpower, look at afghanistan in the 80s vs the soviets, and insurgents in Iraq almost kicked the US out of their nation.
Amazing fact: more people are in the NRA than in the US military.
Amazing fact: more people are in the NRA than in the US military.
On the Civil War if you read more of Lincolns writings then what is edited on some forums you will find that he was against slavery. He was also a politician who would change his speech to suit his audiance. Now was slavery the cause of the civil war, yes. How can I say this? Easy. If you take away the issue of slavery, there would not have been a war.
dont forget Vietnam-- a bunch of people with bamboo sticks kicking out the the most advanced millitary in the world
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