Any way to keep the U.S off my neck as Germany?

[foxMiD]

You're welcome! Just keep on going, don't give up and eventually the USA will be integrated into the Reich

I'll get there at some then point then I don't like the "Here you go, it's so simple & easy! Just use these small forces & you're golden!" But... I'd also rather avoid getting annihilated, I'm not exactly too familiar with the games actual mechanics.

 

[Meglok]

Naah, I gotta stick on the historical option.
The US always enters on Britain's side.
But if I can take Britain (and France) down before 1942, there is no "Allied side", is there? Or... If Canada, Australia etc.. don't step down when Britain surrenders, there still is.
Irritating! One thing is the US military might; Secondary, I have no intention on touching US ground anyway. -_-

Historical, then the USA is coming in to help the Allies. Take out France, then take out the Soviets before the USA becomes an issue. With the industry of France and Russia the USA is not an issue, especially if Japan is on your side. At least that was the historical plan. Pulling it off is the trick.

 

[foxMiD]

Historical, then the USA is coming in to help the Allies. Take out France, then take out the Soviets before the USA becomes an issue. With the industry of France and Russia the USA is not an issue, especially if Japan is on your side. At least that was the historical plan. Pulling it off is the trick.

Yep, that's true. Also why he wanted to make peace with Britain; Peace with Britain, no matter if he actually occupied the rest of France, wouldn't be worth it for the US to interfere then.
Unfortunately, my generals can't make plans. Hitler was horrible; No sense of planning or commanding an army at all. Which is ironic, since he served 3 years in WW1.

 

[Dalwin]

It is also not difficult for a moderately sized force to hold for years in the west to buy time for your Russian campaign. Focus on holding the ports and on having mobile reserves to contain and repel troops that land between the ports. This activity will keep you busy and may be stressful at times but your enemies will suffer horrendous losses.

One should also remember that the intensity of the naval invasions will increase over time. This means that as you continue your Russian campaign, it is necessary for some portion of whatever new units you produce to be assigned to the Western Front.

 

[foxMiD]

It is also not difficult for a moderately sized force to hold for years in the west to buy time for your Russian campaign. Focus on holding the ports and on having mobile reserves to contain and repel troops that land between the ports. This activity will keep you busy and may be stressful at times but your enemies will suffer horrendous losses.

One should also remember that the intensity of the naval invasions will increase over time. This means that as you continue your Russian campaign, it is necessary for some portion of whatever new units you produce to be assigned to the Western Front.

Yeah, there sure is a damn long time till 1940....
Ok, I'm not gonna wait then Should I take France & Britain, leaving Poland alone for now then? Or is THE historical also the best way?

 

[Dalwin]

It is not about "best" since best requires capitalizing on weak points in game design. It is about trying different things and seeing if you can succeed at them.

Personally I see no advantage to skipping the Polish campaign. It is quick and easy and you need the resulting factories and resources.

I also never go for Britain before Russia. I say this not because that is a bad plan, but for me invading Britain is too easy since the AI does not defend itself well. I have more fun invading Russia while also having to defend myself in the west.

 

[foxMiD]

It is not about "best" since best requires capitalizing on weak points in game design. It is about trying different things and seeing if you can succeed at them.

Personally I see no advantage to skipping the Polish campaign. It is quick and easy and you need the resulting factories and resources.

I also never go for Britain before Russia. I say this not because that is a bad plan, but for me invading Britain is too easy since the AI does not defend itself well. I have more fun invading Russia while also having to defend myself in the west.

Think I should handle Britain, France & Poland first then. Seems the most fun, as opposed to you, I am not very good
Allright, I'll go wage some war!!!! (Insert major war yell). Damn, I'm excited now haha..
Thanks for the help mate!

 

[Dalwin]

good luck

 

[Aodhan_]

Think I should handle Britain, France & Poland first then. Seems the most fun, as opposed to you, I am not very good
Allright, I'll go wage some war!!!! (Insert major war yell). Damn, I'm excited now haha..
Thanks for the help mate!

I don't like to tell people how to play the game as the fun is in finding out new way's of doing things yourself, but I will say don't be worried about loosing and try out different things you will be astonished at how much you'll enjoy the game. And the truth be told you won't have been the first to loose to the AI. (not that I have )

 

[foxMiD]

I don't like to tell people how to play the game as the fun is in finding out new way's of doing things yourself, but I will say don't be worried about loosing and try out different things you will be astonished at how much you'll enjoy the game. And the truth be told you won't have been the first to loose to the AI. (not that I have )

I have now And before also.
The reason I posted this, was because my war with Poland only took almost 8 months with 50k casualties and got absolutely stomped, every time the Royal Navy looked at me! I almost never had air superiority.

So, seen from this, I knew I had to do something different. I don't like it easy, but no soldiers = no war. Doesn't matter how many fighters, CAS, bombers, tanks etc.. one have. I just lost too many men!

Then I learned how to approach the command bar & my air force in a different way (plus a more proper division design, although that was after Poland). Yesterday, I took Poland with 9k casualties in 2 weeks haha Too easy now.

 

[Wrymn]

Start 1936, playing Germany. Would be very pleasant, if I could avoid the U.S joining the Allies in 1942. Can't stand against both Britain, France & the US! Plus I don't intend to invade the U.S anyway.

How? Boost fascism in all 3? Keep World Tension low? (Leave Poland & Rhineland alone).
Or must I defeat Britain & France, before 1942?

Thank you! )

Yes you can.... AI is really weak they will keep bombarding your ports with 2-4 division invasions, ehich you can defend againts very easily.

They dont even use paratroopers.....its a joke. Your shores would have to be totally unguarded for them to invade you

 

[seattle]

US can only pick the route to war with Germany, if Germany causes enough world tension. I believe Germany also has to be in an offensive war. Just check the conditions of the US NF-tree.
Boosting fascism in the US from 1936 onwards used to be an easy exploit, but since they introduced scaling depending on a party's popularity, I don't know if you can still do it.

 

[foxMiD]

US can only pick the route to war with Germany, if Germany causes enough world tension. I believe Germany also has to be in an offensive war. Just check the conditions of the US NF-tree.
Boosting fascism in the US from 1936 onwards used to be an easy exploit, but since they introduced scaling depending on a party's popularity, I don't know if you can still do it.

I know, Germany has to cause 30% of the worlds combined world tension.
However, annexing Austria & war with Poland alone is 19-20%. Japan's & Italy's wars are barely noticeable. The Spanish civil war isn't even worth mentioning. But... Well, it is history.
The Spanish Civil War & Italy's wars should have caused more WT tension in Europe! But Japan were at war before the game started, yet nobody in Europe (irl, history) really noticed it anyway. The British did, and US cared. But the people of Europe barely new.

 

[seattle]

I know, Germany has to cause 30% of the worlds combined world tension.
However, annexing Austria & war with Poland alone is 19-20%. Japan's & Italy's wars are barely noticeable. The Spanish civil war isn't even worth mentioning. But... Well, it is history.
The Spanish Civil War & Italy's wars should have caused more WT tension in Europe! But Japan were at war before the game started, yet nobody in Europe (irl, history) really noticed it anyway. The British did, and US cared. But the people of Europe barely new.

You can always uncheck the "historical a.i." setting. I often play without it and those tend to become fun if a bit chaotic games.

Or you could try luring the US into the anti-Soviet branch by denying the pre-requisites for the anti-Germany branch long enough to make them go another route. A peaceful Germany until 1941/42 might do the trick.

 

[foxMiD]

You can always uncheck the "historical a.i." setting. I often play without it and those tend to become fun if a bit chaotic games.

Or you could try luring the US into the anti-Soviet branch by denying the pre-requisites for the anti-Germany branch long enough to make them go another route. A peaceful Germany until 1941/42 might do the trick.

Hmm.. Ye, I could that. Was is it, more just "free-for-all" then? Not that I intend to stay peaceful for that long, though.
Edit: Very boring playing the US, because if Germany don't attack (which causes like 200% more WT, when they do something, the US can never get into anything.
Seems like it's pretty random what happens. Some non-historical turns quite historical anyway (depends on the country played). So, if I play Germany, it would mostly turn out somewhat the same.

 

[KillingMeSoftly]

I have played a few Democratic Germany games, and they were surprisingly fun.

I am not sure if the strategy works anymore with the recent patches, as I have no tried it, but here is what I did:

Collect enough political power from the start to fabricate claims on Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland. I was able to declare on all four of them and conquer them. I made them my puppets, and right after I switched to Democratic. My puppets remained Fascist, which is good, because this means they will have a lot of divisions which will help you. Becoming Democratic means the Allies never bothered to ever attack me, and this is despite creating my own faction. Eventually the SU will come knocking, and it is much easier to fight SU without worrying about the allies. This also allows you to befriend Poland (Be sure to get Slovakia as a puppet so you can trade it to Poland for Danzig). The neat thing is despite being Democratic you can still do Anti-Comitern Pact, Anschluss, and Fate of Czechoslovakia. Any Baltic state that signs Anti-Comitern Pact will eventually desire to join your faction. Friendly Poland+Friendly Baltic states + Puppeted fascist Scandinavian states is a massive force to take on Soviet Union.

You could also attack Italy and whatever other Fascist nations exist and conquer them (they would become Democratic puppets if you puppet them so much less useful than Fascist puppets). I've never tried this myself but you should be able to flip back to Fascist and then take on the Allies from a much more powerful position.

This strategy will lock you out of a lot of the Germany focus tree, but honestly none of what you lose you really need.

 

[PanzerMan7]

Are you playing SP or multiplayer?

If playing SP, you're overreacting m8. Just defend france with moderate forces, including a handful of panzers, then clean the Soviet's clock.

If you're playing MP, well, you can't. You HAVE to clean the Soviet's clock FAST before the USA can gear up fully.

But in both cases, once you defeat the Soviets you almost win the game. You can build up a massive amount of dockyards, followed by a huge Carrier force. At worst, it's a stalemate that nukes will decide.

EDIT: I'm confused why the USA joining the war is a big deal for you.

 

[Aodhan_]

Are you playing SP or multiplayer?

If playing SP, you're overreacting m8. Just defend france with moderate forces, including a handful of panzers, then clean the Soviet's clock.

If you're playing MP, well, you can't. You HAVE to clean the Soviet's clock FAST before the USA can gear up fully.

But in both cases, once you defeat the Soviets you almost win the game. You can build up a massive amount of dockyards, followed by a huge Carrier force. At worst, it's a stalemate that nukes will decide.

EDIT: I'm confused why the USA joining the war is a big deal for you.

I could be wrong about this but from what I took from his/her posts sounds as though they are new to the game, and probably have read about the power behind the USA. Playing Germany and taking out Poland, Belgium, Netherlands, France, Denmark and the Soviet Union does give you a lot of coast line, and with UK still in game they where probably worried about the USA getting a foot hold in Europe.

 

[cunningstunts]

Does anyone know if the opinion modifier has an effect on the AI's choice of NF? For example, improving relations and trading with USA as Germany to try delay them taking anti-Germany focuses (and thus their entry into the war)

 

[melkor88]

Best thing to do is to quickly invade the UK and end the war in months, and not let it drag on which is when the US will enter quicker.