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bmk1st

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I never played Germany before. :eek:o but I often played other countries. From what I heard, a lot of players had tough times against USSR, so why not give Germany a shot. :p My question is when do you start to rebuild your army/air force before the war breaks out in 1939? And how many should you build prior to 1939?
 

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I always have 5-6 infantry divisions getting built from '36 to whenever war starts, typically early '39. That way, I have at least 60 infantry divisions in reserve, plus whatever extra tanks and others I build. The rest of free IC is used on research.
 

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1938 is fine. But you don't really have to build a huge amount of divisions, because you will recieve the Austrian ones. And if you fortify a little the french border, 15 divisions will keep the front in perfect armony until you finish the polish job.
Invading France will take many more units of course. But you'll be fine... until 1942!!
 

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bmk1st said:
What about air force? I prefer to build dive bombers for close support and fighters to defend provinces and army divisions from enemy bombers.

A few dive bombers are ok... but they're nothing compared to the 825km autonomy that tac bombers get when techs play their part (and you will need that when defending france and the east) just IMO of course...
 

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Xizo said:
My usual plan for air forces is to get as much in the way of fighteres as possible to defend France from bombing runes. :)

I did that, had multiple stacks of 3 fighters all over the channel. No bombers got through :)
 

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doesnt work with no AI penalty

deploying a half dozen fighter in groups of 2 along the northwest coast. with the AI not getting any stacking penalty their fighters come across the channel and destroy my pickets that i had set up to stop the bomber raids. the more i put their the more i lose???? :wacko:
 

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...The easiest thing for Germany to do is to build infantry/vanilla and mountain/engineer troops from the beginning of the game. With 20/20 historical hindsight I begin every game by initially building 6 mountain/eng divisions for intervention purposes in Spain. Then nothing but plain infantry until I have 60 divisions at least by 1938.
...Dive bombers work great against all of Western Europe. Five to ten is plenty. For the Eastern Front and its enormous distances Tac bombers are much more useful, but more expensive.
...If you station fighters in groups of two in alternating provinces, ALONG the COAST you can set them to intercept enemy strategic bombers efficiently enough to prevent successful attacks. This has worked for me in all versions of the game. I used to use groups of three fighters until the recent mod made that inadvisable.
...Wait until your armor tech is half decent before building any fresh panzer divisions, but upgrading your initial divisions after Poland can be useful.
...One of the best timesavers in the game is the intelligent use of parachute divisions. I use two only and they make conquering France/Great Britain much easier. Explaining how to use them would take an article by itself, and has already been explained elsewhere.
 

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Noticed for this version of 1.06c France territory 'Colmar' just next to german 's 'Freiburg' only consist of 2 planes intially and the AI France think is programmed to protect the maginot line a t all cost. Initial 2 days the computer will do nothing much. send your 6 transports to the gulf of danzig than pick up the 6 soldiers there. At the same time, move all your troops to Frieburg but leave 2-3 soldeiers at the border to France. Remember to leave 1 soldier at the border of netherlands.(Important)

By 4th Jan, your tanks would have reached Freiburg but hold your fire. Once your 6 troops have loaded onto gulf of danzig's transport, send them to conventry beside. At the same time send all your ships to arrive at the side of coventry at the same time as your transports. 6th Jan think is 2000hrs declare war on the allies, land your troops at coventry and move your tanks and armies into France's 'Colmar' .You should capture it by 17th Jan than push on into Paris and Vichy bypassing all the France army.

Remember to pick up the small soldier at the end of netherlands and send it to Belfast before you capture plymouth and the rest of UK. Think the British Ai is programmed to move away and let u capture southhampton and the rest with ease. If not, just attack. Belfast is very important cause u need to wack Ireland and also all the British ships will not retreat to Gilbratar but to Belfast if the mainland is captured!

Make use of the river beside paris and form a natural defence line. 1 soldier each should be enough but u need lots of planes. By now whole of France is cut into 2. Send your troops to capture the troopless territories behind. Even if u met some difficulties, don't worry cause your main army of at least 25+ soldiers will help to protect much.

Point to note is that the battle of ships near conventry do not be arrogant. Once your troops have completed the initial landing of operation sealion recall them back to Hamburg. Maybe u want to leave out submarines cause they r the slowest. (Pls pick up the 1 soldier to land at Belfast before it is fortified by 50 ships.) For convoy caus this is 1.06c, send from hamburg to conventry and manchester to Belfast. Indeed awkard but the AI likes to stay near plymouth as such. Otherwise newcastle will be nice. The troops landing at coventry should move in 2 directions. 1 up, 1 stay in coventry, 4 to the side than upon reaching, the side, split into 2 directions again, 1 to up, 1 to side and 2 to move down. Monitor the British AI for they like to leave open spaces for your troops to move in.

With France down and bypassing the main line of fighting, u have conserved much strength when Vichy is up and UK is down. Usually in Vanilla I will move on into spain but 1.06c in July there r so many doctrines to get so I leave spain well alone till July b4 I reorganise all my troops to wack both nationalist and republican spain. Will touch on later

Move your 5 troops from mainland and land at Belfast to down Ireland. Leave the other who is rushing to scapa flow alone. When he is done, move him to southhampton to defend, with 1 plane. The AI likes to attack southampton ,no to forget the southampton bug....!

Reorganise your troops to attck Luxembourg, netherland and Belgium.After that attack Czecs through 1 key point just above Bratislava. U need only to capture 3 key points of Czecs. After Ireland just remember to use the army at Ireland to wack Denmark. With Czecs down, than attack Poland. Wack through 3 main lines. 1 on Danzig, 1 on Lowe and the rest through Czecschostava towards the capital and Lubin. The battle of Czecs is necessary cause u need to get to Lowe and minimise manpower lost. Once Poland is annexed, it is about time the spanish civil war is going to start, continue using your 3 panzers to get into the small islands of Latvia, Estonia, lithuania as such. No need to worry Soviet, he will not attack u unless u choose 'no deal with the Bolsheviks' in the historical pact than maybe.

I always built 6 panzers, 2 tactical bombers and research vehicle and aircraft industy techs initially. By now u should have 6 new panzers to use. Also remember to move all your ships to the border of spain. Once us get the doctrines, remember to lauch 6 soldiers to land at sevilla and think is malaga, got 2 key points there. Do not attempt to go through moutains unless it is poorly defended or u got moutaineers. Basically is the time constrain, unless it is a key point. With spain down, push into portugal with your tanks and take down Gibratar. Than after, reorganise and push into hungary's 3 main points, followed by a blitz into yugolslavia's 2 main points of saravejavo and the captital, than Bulgaria, push into Romania's 3 key points through Bulgaria. Take note that the land to the right of romania is marshes and do use infantry cause tanks r slower in marshes. Finally take down greece and u can procceed fromt there. Usually I take down Turkey and move into Suez, Iraq, Saudi, eventually Persia and the rest. I try to reach nationalist china before Jap but the war is usually on b4 I am there.

Before battle of greece, do built at least 12 transports to take down norway once greece fell. Move all your land infantries to take down norway, sweden and finland while your tanks can move through. I usually built lotsa tanks casue of the manpower constrain. Tanks require 9 manpower after the research as I go for artillery once. The constrain of 850 manpower is ridiculous. (Do reserach on nuke and get the paratroopers before invsion of Japan cause there the Jap AI likes to move all its troops into china during the war.) Nukes r necessary cause of the newly improvised Russia. Also do build fighters cause Soviet have lotsa them. Nukes r necessary for the 5 key points of Moskva, leningrad,stalingrad, Baku and magnitogorsk with leningrad my main focus. Good luck in your world conquest for I usually hope to achieve all same grey colour. keke...

By the way, I playing as very hard and most agressive so maybe things maybe different for different settings but my strategies overall hope to help u.

Cheers






bmk1st said:
I never played Germany before. :eek:o but I often played other countries. From what I heard, a lot of players had tough times against USSR, so why not give Germany a shot. :p My question is when do you start to rebuild your army/air force before the war breaks out in 1939? And how many should you build prior to 1939?


If playing as vanilla, land at UK using your tanks than move into France though cherbourg to get Paris and Vichy while u invade Demark , Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Poland at the same time than push into spain and vichy after u r done. In vanilla u only need to get paratroopers. keke...

Cheers


I did observed the AI play as soviet and germany and they always rush infantry til 1939 March. Yep, only infantry. Followed by than on build something else. The german AI love dive bombers and fighters too but I prefer tactical cause of the range.

Cheers



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