Any on-line reference for national fleet naming in WWII?

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Hi all, I always like to name my fleet historically and nationally accurate, instead of the generic fleet 1, 2, 3, etc. But sometimes I do struggle to find good sources for fleet naming, Has anyone got any good site to share please? Especially for some of the more popular nation such as Italy, Japan, etc.. Would be really appreciated with that! Thank you!
 

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I mostly rely on wikipedia, although certain nations are harder to do than others. Note that some nations are very conventional (i.e. Japan) while others are unreasonably-inconsistent (i.e. Britain, France). It helps to look up a certain class of ship (not necessarily a modern class; sail frigates are a useful one to pull names for cruisers or destroyers from, for instance). It also helps if you're vaguely-familiar with the language (or if it translates well; Japanese is incredibly-hard to translate online compared to something like Russian or French); for instance, Russian names are more conceptual (i.e. watchful, impetuous, proud, bold, sly).

In Japan's case, you're looking at weather-type names for destroyers (more fanciful names than in English, mostly two-part names), rivers/mountains/straits for cruisers (including battlecruisers), a few borrowed BC/BB names for carriers plus bird, phoenix, or dragon names, and province names for battleships. The US is also incredibly-conventional, with carriers and battlecruisers being the awkward ones that borrow historic ship names as well as battle names (and a few specifics like Hornet and Wasp). Certain classes also frequently pull a particular theme that isn't consistent with the rest of the ship type (i.e. the Italian Soldati class represents soldiers, while the Oriani-class was named after poets).

When it comes to nations using historic ship names, its important to keep in mind certain names which are connotated more with certain governments (i.e. France using more monarchist/nobility names as a Right-wing government, and more revolutionary and Renaissance names as a Left-wing government). A ton of old sail ships also use royalty, nobility, or saints in a way that fell out of favor by the modern era. Common themes include soldiers, towns, constellations, mountains, historic battles, generals/admirals, famous leaders (including politicians, monarchs, nobility, and philosophers), mythology (particularly Greco-Roman), and nationalist symbols.
 
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I think he was looking for Fleet (or Task Force) names, not ship names.

I tend to find fleet names backwards. I look up a given ship for a certain navy and then read the article on that to find what formation it served with to get inspiration.

For some of the larger nations, particularly those that operated globally (i.e, the US, UK, France, and to a lesser extent Japan) Fleet names cover formations that are larger than you would want to use in game (or at least larger than I would use since my surface fleets typically only cover the sea zone of the base for the main Strike element and the adjacent zones).
 
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Hi all, I always like to name my fleet historically and nationally accurate, instead of the generic fleet 1, 2, 3, etc. But sometimes I do struggle to find good sources for fleet naming, Has anyone got any good site to share please? Especially for some of the more popular nation such as Italy, Japan, etc.. Would be really appreciated with that! Thank you!
Kind of a slog, and only covers nations in the Pacific War, but this should give you some good info. Keep in mind OOB's start on 7 Dec 1941, then add newly arrived/formed/built units as they deploy to the theater.

 
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