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Maximilian I

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there´ll be no "pops" in it.. so no.
 

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Maximilian I said:
there´ll be no "pops" in it.. so no.


"pops"? Do you mean risings??.
Will there be a TAG for them, and/or will they be in the Liberate puppet section? (with their own ministers and leaders etc...)
 

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Gunnl said:
OMG No pops for HOI2 O_O ...
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hey
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who cares for pops in a WW2 game when u have PANZERS!!!!
muahahahah *evil laugh*
Hey, gunnl, let's treat POPs with respect, man!
They were -- no doubt about it -- Paradox's most brilliant innovation. (and I DO mean this, oddly enough!)
It's just that you warmongers have no appreciation for the finer points of historical sims -- all you want to do is blow stuff up! :D
 
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So POPs in Victoria were good aye?

Maybe I will try Victoria after all... :)

But no. Kurds = race or ethnic groups required (and possibly religion too) and for WWII that is a very touchy subject.

Although it may not be 100% true and accurate it is better that all soldiers and countries in HoI are populated by 'Acme Standard People'. (The purple skinned ones, all born on a steam ship on the ocean and who all believe in the same God or absence of God :confused:

Politically safer that way for Paradox.
 
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I'm totally in favor of there bieng ethnic groups in HoII. Along with Population size and possibly even religions. It would decide stuff like loyalty to the government, how a country percieves the actions of it's neighbors ie those with the same religion are easier to influence (religion wasn't entirely irrelevant politically even at that time).

Some people in the real world :) would most likely be upset by such a feuture but why should anyone care about them.
 

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Maximilian I said:
there´ll be no "pops" in it.. so no.

Do you know if there are any minorities that can declare independence? IE if a axis Turkey is shattered, could we see Kurdistan become a seperate state?
 

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Galleblære said:
Do you know if there are any minorities that can declare independence? IE if a axis Turkey is shattered, could we see Kurdistan become a seperate state?


I´m not allowed to disclose which new revolters/possible free states have been added.... ;)
 

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GoblinCookie said:
I'm totally in favor of there bieng ethnic groups in HoII. Along with Population size and possibly even religions. It would decide stuff like loyalty to the government, how a country percieves the actions of it's neighbors ie those with the same religion are easier to influence (religion wasn't entirely irrelevant politically even at that time).

Some people in the real world :) would most likely be upset by such a feuture but why should anyone care about them.

As far as I know, there is a single huge issue why pops are NOT going to be in HoI2, No matter what.

Simply, what would you do with all the jews? Of course, doing it realistically with jew pops being reduced is NOT going to be in, and both leaving them out completely if a system for modeling them existed, and letting them live till the end of war can be interpreted as a political stand. So, case closed.
 

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Maybe create Kurdish areas of Iraq and Turkey as able to be granted independce by Iraq or Turkey, there portions, like Mosul in Iraq.

Thats easily doable, is doable in HoI 1, look at Republican Spain, they ahve 3 or 4 places that can be granted independce in just Spain itself, heh.
 

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Jack_Deth said:
Maybe create Kurdish areas of Iraq and Turkey as able to be granted independce by Iraq or Turkey, there portions, like Mosul in Iraq.

Thats easily doable, is doable in HoI 1, look at Republican Spain, they ahve 3 or 4 places that can be granted independce in just Spain itself, heh.

Do u want HoI2 to be banned in Turkey :D .
Ofcourse that Kurds should be implemented no doubt of that.
 

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GoblinCookie said:
I'm totally in favor of there bieng ethnic groups in HoII. Along with Population size and possibly even religions. It would decide stuff like loyalty to the government, how a country percieves the actions of it's neighbors ie those with the same religion are easier to influence (religion wasn't entirely irrelevant politically even at that time).

Some people in the real world :) would most likely be upset by such a feuture but why should anyone care about them.
I'm totally in favour of introducing foot (boot) sizes in HOI. It will be important for calculating supply consumption and relative costs of different branches of military.