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It was introduced with this patch.
Ok. I'll have a look at the patch notes. Cheers. Expect the Wiki is just lagging behind.

EDIT: Had a look at massive Changelog. It does mention Trade Post icons but doesn't say what they are or what they mean. Is there more info anywhere i.e. a screenshot of the icons and their meaning?
 
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I just saw Alp Arslan form the Sultanate of Rum. Best DLC ever.
 

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The setup in the Middle east suffers from split up realms. The catholic "Counts" of Edessa have lands in the main duchy and bira, which before the patch was next to each other, one/two counties apart. Looks funny. The tweaking with Gilan and Dailam also creates some weird map stuff with enclave counties. Nothing game breaking, per say, but this was clearly an oversight.

Xia kings in 1066 have a slightly broken family tree, an uncle is in it when he shouldn't. Same for some new governor leveled vassals to the mongols in the later start dates. More to come most likely.

Also Purgyal (former Yarlungs) are quite possibily the longest reining and surviving dynasty in the entire game beginning their rule in 46 AD and still around past 1066.
 

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Anyone tried loading an older save in the new patch yet?

Yes - first thing I tried.

New provinces are all barren (i.e. unclickable and apparently having no holdings) and show "no character" in the tool tip.

Probably maybe can't do much with them without, I suspect, some drastic save-editing.

Eh, it was always a bit of a gamble.
 

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Caved in and bought. Played horses - and they're non interactive with china, because it's a race to be "biggest horse" in asia, or you inevitably lose. Started as mongols. The moment I had 4k cavalry, my son married abbasid princess. (Old) Khiva invasion, purge, then press claim. Really no time or reason to deal with china as horse lord. BUT the only farmable region in that area (looting) is pretectorate. And if you loot them for one second, you lose 50-100 grace (because "war" is ticking).

Weaponsmith gives more weapons than ever, but they seem to be worse at the end and much more expensive. China's empire is unstable/in rebellion all the time it seems. I started to ignore those announcements - because if I don't interact with china, they're pointless. If I get chinese general/concubine - I still probably won't care if they're in rebellion.

Rally point - nifty, but my levies still get eaten by those 500 army rebels on the way. Rally point seems to not work for levies that were summoned before rally point.

I've seen bohemia create empire, eat denmark and norway then convert to catholic. Abbasids seem weaker due to opinion inflation nerf.

Zunbils are in crappy place, because there is no longer afganistan and most of their lands need to combat abbasids to create sistans, while kabul is different kingdom - they need both holy sites. Anyone starting weak knows that it's not very wise to have 3 provinces in 3 de-jure duchies or 3 duchies in 3 de-jure kingdoms.

China's doctor or strategist are essentialy cheap and can save you in the moment of need.

Didn't know pillaging as horses counts as looting temples - out of the blue fylkir was created (I was germanic after reforming tengri).

Tibet is one of strongest countries right now. It seems indians are more agressive towards ex-afganistan.

My graphics are all screwed up, the wastelands in political mode have these black lines on them. Its probably a mac issue.

Try deleting map cache/flags . It should be in "my documents" somewhere
 

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Zunbils are in crappy place, because there is no longer afganistan and most of their lands need to combat abbasids to create sistans, while kabul is different kingdom - they need both holy sites. Anyone starting weak knows that it's not very wise to have 3 provinces in 3 de-jure duchies or 3 duchies in 3 de-jure kingdoms.

FYI, Zunbils can create a titular Kingdom without the need to grab an existing one. Plus, without the Indian holy orders there's more expansion possible to the east. The downside is that many (all?) of the initial Sunni kingdoms there are tributaries of the Caliph, leading them to call him in to various wars. Although he fell to a decadence revolt within ~75 years in my (Zunbil) game, so I wonder if the constant warfare takes it's toll on it?
 

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FYI, Zunbils can create a titular Kingdom without the need to grab an existing one. Plus, without the Indian holy orders there's more expansion possible to the east. The downside is that many (all?) of the initial Sunni kingdoms there are tributaries of the Caliph, leading them to call him in to various wars. Although he fell to a decadence revolt within ~75 years in my (Zunbil) game, so I wonder if the constant warfare takes it's toll on it?

What titlular Kingdom is this?
 

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What titlular Kingdom is this?

Kabulistan. Not sure what the requirements are (got it after getting the duchy of Kabulistan), but it's definitely there. OK, it's a titular title requiring 2 duchy titles and the duchy of Kabulistan. Pretty easy to get (probably similar to the old Afghanistan).

Also, the Abbasids fell in 816 in my game... Francia didn't form, and while the Umayyads ate all of Asturias there are still some Christian vassals there (why they used a Muslim invasion instead of holy wars I have no idea). Denmark is close to reforming the Norse religion, and the British isles are a complete mess (although Scotland is making a play).