Any fight to a Pacifist Rebel?

[Oscot]

Sure. The fact Hitler actively tried to make his own Atomic Bomb show that he wouldnt use it.

Hitler didn't want to fight the British. He was all about rapprochement. So I am skeptical he would have nuked 'em. Churchill, however, wanted to fight Hitler, becau-

Wait, how did I get to the HoI4 forum?

 

[kakatua]

Hitler didnt want to fight the British buuut...V1...V2...He really believed that could make Britain surrender via bombs.

 

[Zaku]

Can you stop trying to get this thread closed?
If you want to discuss hitler do it in pm.

 

[kakatua]

Okay...A discussion if Ghandi would use a atomic bomb is ok. A discussion if Hitler would use a atomic bomb isnt.

 

[Zaku]

Okay...A discussion if Ghandi would use a atomic bomb is ok. A discussion if Hitler would use a atomic bomb isnt.

Yes, because one is a joke about a video game, and the other is a megalomaniac murderer.
Its mindblowing that I need to explain this.

 

[Dark Shadow NNN]

All joking aside, here is an actual quote that he delivered in real life:

"Had we adopted non-violence as the weapon of the strong, because we realised that it was more effective than any other weapon, in fact the mightiest force in the world, we would have made use of its full potency and not have discarded it as soon as the fight against the British was over or we were in a position to wield conventional weapons. But as I have already said, we adopted it out of our helplessness. If we had the atom bomb, we would have used it against the British."
- Mohandas Gandhi, 16 July 1947

Can you quote Martin Luther King about nuking white people?

Gandhi isnt the only nonviolent leader of the 20th century, just the most famous.

 

[Koopatin]

Also Ghandi had "luck" to have the british as overlords. I believe the sowjets or chinese wouldn't have reacted so nice to any form of rebellion. peaceful rebellion or not.

 

[Dark Shadow NNN]

Also Ghandi had "luck" to have the british as overlords. I believe the sowjets or chinese wouldn't have reacted so nice to any form of rebellion. peaceful rebellion or not.

Yes, because british empire authority in India didnt kill, imprison or torture nobody before India indipendence.

Please, the narrative that western authoritarianism was nicer than then eastern one is, to be reductive, racist.

 

[Koopatin]

yeah what i meant was at this particular time.

 

[TheBeautifulVoid2]

Can you quote Martin Luther King about nuking white people?

Gandhi isnt the only nonviolent leader of the 20th century, just the most famous.

I'm a pacifist like Gandhi, and I respect him immensely for the severely hard line that he took against violence. I am not, however, a religious leader or a racist, and so I must disagree with him on those matters.

 

[Dark Shadow NNN]

I know what is your positions BeautifulVoid and believe me I agree whit you. There are other dirty spots in the Gandhi's conscience, but Its really hard to find something than make Gandhi "worse than Hitler".

I just want to say that the narrative than anticolonian indipendestist movements ideologies are all the same to nazionalsocialist ideology because they are both nazionalist is a toxic, racist and eurocentric stuff.

I also quite sure that you agree whit me that pacifism and nonviolence (who arent the same thing ) are too often represented are passive and weak, but they rarely were historically in the last century. But maybe I'm wrong. ^^