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So I started a new game as the King of Denmark after 1.06 came out and within the first 40 years I saw the first Empire form. It was the Seljuk Empire[Persian] and promptly saw it fall apart within 2 years.

I think it might have helped that the founder of the Empire Shahanshan Alp Arslan I died of a suspicious accident within 1 year leaving the Throne to his son. Who then promptly died of a suspicious accident within the year then leaving the Throne yet again to his 10 year old son that saw atleast half of the Empire revolt.


Fantastic how that played out and am officialy "In Love" with the new Empires that are createable!
 

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Second Seljuk sulten turned persian, formed the persian Empire. Third one went turkish, but after that they went persian and stayed that way. Eventually they got taken over by the Kasabites (desert people, cause they had 100 dec.).
 

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Scandinavia and Russia co-exist in my current game
 

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Sigh. According to the devs those empires would be rarely formed by the AI.

Yeah, but Alp Arslan owns almost all the Persian Empire and only needs the money, piety and culture to form it.
 

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Yeah, but Alp Arslan owns almost all the Persian Empire and only needs the money, piety and culture to form it.

I guess if he manages to have his kid turn Persian in a non-gamey way, then it might work. Historically, the post-Arab-conquest monarchy was supposed to be a continuation of previous Persian monarchies even in Muslim times but then the rulers were actually Persian, not Seljuks with Persian tutors. I guess it's reasonable and historically viable, problem being that if it happens every single game it will look bad, especially when it happens shortly after start, when the characters' decisions have not yet had the time to accumulate much.
 

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Alp Arslan didn't even get to form the Persian Empire in my game, IIRC. He was captured by the Byzantines in the Seljuk-Byzantine war, died (I think?) and his heirs saw stupid upheaval.

The only new Empire in my current game is Spain, which was formed by myself.
 

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Sigh. According to the devs those empires would be rarely formed by the AI.

You mean that, in a thread asking people if Empires have been created in their games, there are people who have had Empires created in their games? Say it ain't so? How on Earth do you think you can gauge how often the AI forms Empires from half a dozen replies about how there's been maybe one or two Empires formed?
 

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I've only ever seen Persia formed by the Seljuks, which I think is probably pretty reasonable.
 

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You mean that, in a thread asking people if Empires have been created in their games, there are people who have had Empires created in their games? Say it ain't so? How on Earth do you think you can gauge how often the AI forms Empires from half a dozen replies about how there's been maybe one or two Empires formed?

I can't calculate the percentage of people with such empires in their games to the total number of players if that's what you mean. But if just after the patch goes live people come back with stories of new AI empires, then something's wrong in light of the assurances that it'd be a rare occurrence.

I've only ever seen Persia formed by the Seljuks, which I think is probably pretty reasonable.

At least the Mongols can't form all those empires without changing their culture.