Any chance of a 1081 start date?

[Zhetone]

iron century will probably stay in, since they developed that free update so recently , they would of definantly done that with ck3 in mind, more so I bet they developed it for ck3 and thought "eh might as well throw it in ck2"

not sure, iron century was pretty much one guy's idea and he did most of the work. I don't think it implies much about 936. However I think it has to be a pretty beloved start date at this point, so I hope it makes it in regardless

 

[Bearnest]

When they said that nobody ever played the later start dates, I thought they meant "after the Mongols appear and roflstomped everybody". The Alexiad is quite an interesting episode of medieval history. The Iron Century is my go-to start date nowadays.

 

[Delta5ff]

But if nobody express he is disappointed at the decision paradox would just believe that everyone supports it. Paradox said they would read threads posted by users, that is why I post this.

That's also why I created this thread, To show them we had an interest in the 1081 start date, and also 936 has proven pretty popular here as well.

 

[Delta5ff]

on top of the starting work to implement it too, every time the map is even slightly tweaked they have to go through every single selectable date and fix anything that might be wrong, check for bugs, etc. which is probably why they never expanded selectable dates when they added 867 or 769 (or 936). It's an absurd amount of work for dates 99.9% of which will never be used by anyone

Agreed, I think the best we can do is let them know what bookmarks it is we would like added

 

[Cephei80]

they said they will add few more start dates so its ok to give them intresting suggestions and why .
for me i just want one with fatimids on egypt only and not tunisia , this mean the precrusades era . so 1081 will be an intresting one for sure .

 

[JonathanViking]

Actuelly when you think about around 869 Thats when the great viking army invaded England so when you think about Im cinda confident they whil make an earlier start date so that people Can have a few years preparing for viking invasion and other chaos hapens OwO

 

[Tomaster]

I can understand them not modelling the ability to start at any day between 1066 and 1337, that was definitely overboard, but I hope there are more than just a couple bookmarks. A Kingdom of Jerusalem (1100), Third Crusade (1187), Latin Empire (1204), maybe even a Genghis Khan (1220) start once they sell us nomads again.

 

[Snow Crystal]

I'm happy to hear so many seem to like the Iron Century, you charmers you.

 

[divefr]

I don't really see a problem with them removing scrollable history, as long as they make up for it with a good variety of bookmarks (at least 5 - my personal suggestion would be Old Gods, Iron Century, 1066, Alexiad and Latin Empire; possibly throw in a schism start date, depending on religion mechanics). To be honest, in all my time playing CK2 I don't think I have ever used the scrollable history function - it seems quite niche.

 

[WeissRaben]

One of my favorite historical characters (as my somber title implies) falls exactly in the black hole between CK and EU. A damn pity - haven't been able to play as him since EU3.

 

[Pied-Noir]

I'm happy to hear so many seem to like the Iron Century, you charmers you.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...e-include-the-936-scenario-in-ck-iii.1264701/

 

[Serenity84]

A Kingdom of Jerusalem (1100)

Yeah, that would be fun as a separate bookmark. The Third Crusade was there, but advancing the time to one of the historical crusader kings after the first crusade can be very fun.

It's one of the few times I've used that function. In theory there are a lot of possibilities and there are lists with interesting characters, but your character is also going to die pretty soon so it doesn't matter too much. If there were event chains about important historical events that may be different. It's the different geopoltical situations and the ability to play as realms that don't exist earlier that make it interesting

 

[elvain]

I can understand them not modelling the ability to start at any day between 1066 and 1337, that was definitely overboard, but I hope there are more than just a couple bookmarks. A Kingdom of Jerusalem (1100), Third Crusade (1187), Latin Empire (1204), maybe even a Genghis Khan (1220) start once they sell us nomads again.

Oh yes, these would be awesome. At least the first 3 (1100, 1187 and 1204)

 

[Daniemperor]

I'm happy to hear so many seem to like the Iron Century, you charmers you.

Iron Century is aweome if you want to play as the fatimids or form the Ottonian HRE

 

[Nyrael]

Given that it's only 15 years after 1066 I'm not sure it's really worth it. I suppose if they find it easy enough to do then they can add it, but I'm really not fussed either way.

Those 15 years changed the landscape a lot. It's pretty popular by those who are not driven to take the earliest date. I personally used that one much, much more than 1066 (which is less there for being interesting, and more because it's important for the English history).

 

[Delta5ff]

Those 15 years changed the landscape a lot. It's pretty popular by those who are not driven to take the earliest date. I personally used that one much, much more than 1066 (which is less there for being interesting, and more because it's important for the English history).

Personally I play them both equally. Just depends on what my goals are. Although of I play in 1066 I chose the second start date as I've had William conquer England with ease and then have a 10k event spawned army making him pretty much untouchable at that point in the game

 

[Maphibo]

Eurghh, please no 769...

I like playing Charlemagne and try to reenact all his conquests. Also, the scripted events and characters (Roland, Ogier, Widukind) are nice.

 

[Maphibo]

The bookmarks I'd like to see in the game:

769 Charlemagne

867 Old Gods

936 Iron Century

1030 North Sea Empire

1066 William of Normandy

1081 Alexiad

1100 The Kingdom of Jerusalem

1154 Angevin Empire

1204 Latin Empire of Constantinople

1220 Ghengis Khan

 

[Comintern1919]

I'd argue for a very late start date, around 1300.

I always like the latest start date for a shorter, more focused game. It's also a time of much stronger, more centralized and established kingdoms, making a Vassal Playtrough (or at least starting as one) very interesting and much more challenging.

Especially since CK3 seems to expands quite a lot on roleplaying, making playing a vassal probably a lot more interesting. Trying to expand your powerbase while under a strong King I imagine could be quite a lot of fun.

I also like that at these late start dates the foundation for the modern era are already set, with a Christian Iberia, falling Byzantine Empire and Ottomans, Russians pushing back the Mongols, the Pope gaining in worldly influence, England having the Magna Carta, and so much more.

 

[bitmapmedivh]

I severely doubt it will be a start date in CK3 at launch, not least of all since it's not in CK2, but since we will no longer be able to choose dates freely I'd really like a start date for 15th July 1099, the date of the "founding" of the Kingdom of Jerusalem. Conquering Jerusalem in a crusade and installing a beneficiary just isn't the same as starting as Godefroy de Boulogne.