I like to see alies also got any AA focused division too as 16th LFD, also, it's a more deadly AT weapon than 17 pounder. Will it be any possible that 90mm AA ingame? A new division or unit pack, I would like to pay for that.
Any 90mm AA for alies in the future?
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it is worth noting that the allies didn't really use their 90mm and 3.7inch gun for ground target.
Paradoxically, this is because the allies 90mm and 3.7inch were too powerful to be use safely against ground target. The firing carriage couldn't take the stress of firing the gun horizontally. The 88mm flak were less powerful but this also put less stress on the carriage.
Paradoxically, this is because the allies 90mm and 3.7inch were too powerful to be use safely against ground target. The firing carriage couldn't take the stress of firing the gun horizontally. The 88mm flak were less powerful but this also put less stress on the carriage.
I doubt it. There were not a lot of germans plane to shoot at.
although I doubt a 88mm can accurately hit fighters. Maybe the marauder. Allies 90mm and 3.7inch with proximity fuse will accurately hit fighters, as proven in the pacific against the JPN.
No, they were corps or even higher echelon assets.
If used, they never left the beaches or harbors which they were meant to protect.
I may recall some US 90mm guns being used in anti-tank role during the Battle of the Bulge. But it was only done in case a unit was about to be overrun I think. They were not intended for such role ...
Any 3.7inch AA will be added in furture? I see it was used for secondary AT gun and direct field gun in north Africa.
Same thing: not a divisional gun but a higher echelon one.
And it was also only seldom used in the AT role, as a desperate measure to compensate the lack of better AT guns than the 6-pdr then.
They were unsuited for AT role, being too big and clumsy to move, especially since the advent of the 17-pdr.
I'm not even sure they had actual AT rounds ... although in N-Africa, most tanks (but Tiger) might have been equally knocked-out by 95mm HE shell!
http://www.miniatures.de/anti-tank-weapons-british.html
I found something useful, 3.7 inch AA guns really got some AP shell, I just doubt when comes the type 1944 shells in serve. At least, I think it should be added in game like some additional part that "fight together with that division" like many divisions do, to example the Churchills of 15th Scott.
Well, as soon as we're talking about the M36, we're talking about a 90mm gun, derived from an AA Gun.
90mm M1 = AA Gun (in use since 1940)
90mm M2 = Towed AT Gun (in use sind 43)
90mm M3 = Vehicle Mounted (e.g. M36)
It's not that they didn't exist (or that they were fantasy guns). It's a case of not fitting into the timeframe. It's September 44 when 40 (!) M36 came to Europe. Fighting started in October IIRC. M2 was standard by May 43 but I don't know how they were distributed.
90mm M1 = AA Gun (in use since 1940)
90mm M2 = Towed AT Gun (in use sind 43)
90mm M3 = Vehicle Mounted (e.g. M36)
It's not that they didn't exist (or that they were fantasy guns). It's a case of not fitting into the timeframe. It's September 44 when 40 (!) M36 came to Europe. Fighting started in October IIRC. M2 was standard by May 43 but I don't know how they were distributed.
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It doesn't change the fact that it wasn't use in the AT role outside a few exceptional times, and in N-Africa.
The Scots, and the British in general, already have the best allied AT guns with the 17-pdr.
And of course, no Jackson ...
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Good find, btw. Thanks.
Dug this up: https://rommelsriposte.com/2012/10/09/use-of-the-3-7-aa-gun-in-the-ground-role/
I found a few references to it, but it's all anecdotal. Shame the Australian Army Ammunition School doesn't have it's tech library online, they have a superb collection of manuals on the weapons and the ammunition dating back pre-WW1.
The 17lbr was derived from the old 3" AA.
I found a few references to it, but it's all anecdotal. Shame the Australian Army Ammunition School doesn't have it's tech library online, they have a superb collection of manuals on the weapons and the ammunition dating back pre-WW1.
The 17lbr was derived from the old 3" AA.
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You have your hellcat please no 90mm fantasy guns
They're not fantasy, they certainly existed.
There wasn't much of a Luftwaffe left for the Air Defence troops in Normandy.
And the Flak 41 should not be modeled and have the same stats as an Flak 36.
Yet people want 90 mm AA guns.
Have to ask this as well,any thought as to how this would affect play balance? Why would Allied decks need these weapon systems? So they can play the same as German decks??
Yet people want 90 mm AA guns.
Have to ask this as well,any thought as to how this would affect play balance? Why would Allied decks need these weapon systems? So they can play the same as German decks??
Divisions are designed to provide somewhat similar,in some cases, but overall rather different play styles to their counter parts. Providing Allied decks with the M2 90mm AAA or the British heavy AAA, would radically alter this,having cloned decks would make for a rather vanilla feel.
Units equipped with this system were not integrated into the frontlines as their German counter parts were-Honestly hard to see the justification to add this weapon system to the game.
(the Flak 41's 88L74 is modeled to have the same stats as an Flak36's 88L56,my tilting at windmills)
The Brit 3.7" came in a couple of different mountings, the early model 'mobile' version, which people equate to the '88 type, but which the Brits never intended to be used as a firing platform, and which required the stabiliser bars to be outrigged, and the support legs unwound, and the wheels/suspension to be lifted. The later 'static' model had the portage carriages totally removed, they weren't 'field' versions and were intended for fixed positions.