Answer tutorial questionnaire - win a game!
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Interesting survey. I just don't see tutorials being particularly useful for paradox games. They have their place for the command and conquers of the world, probably even for the total war games of the world.
But there is just far too much information that a new player needs to know here and the medium of a 20 minute tutorial is simply not good at getting large amounts of complex ideas across.
I put in the last question that my dream would be a half-way point between tutorials and manual by having an ingame eu-pedia or somesuch, like the civilization games have. Add in a "what does this do?" button to interface screens and liberal amounts of tooltips explaining sliders and resources and such. Most problems of confused players could be solved without an hour long sleep-inducing "tutorial" - that by it's very nature, must be limited in scope or options - or the 200 page manuals that I fear we will never see again, and likely weren't read by many players anyway.
I can dream, can't I?
But there is just far too much information that a new player needs to know here and the medium of a 20 minute tutorial is simply not good at getting large amounts of complex ideas across.
I put in the last question that my dream would be a half-way point between tutorials and manual by having an ingame eu-pedia or somesuch, like the civilization games have. Add in a "what does this do?" button to interface screens and liberal amounts of tooltips explaining sliders and resources and such. Most problems of confused players could be solved without an hour long sleep-inducing "tutorial" - that by it's very nature, must be limited in scope or options - or the 200 page manuals that I fear we will never see again, and likely weren't read by many players anyway.
I can dream, can't I?
You are entirely correct.
But as I wrote in the survey, I and large numbers of other people have trouble getting into something when they have no base of knowledge in it. A simple tutorial for the game can give you an overview of the interface, the basic ideas behind it, and some suggestions on what to do first. From there, you can try out things, experiment, and come up with your own innovative ideas.
The tutorial doesn't have to be extremely in-depth or complex, it just has to be a tutorial:
Meaning of "tutorial" said:
rofl, I thought the same thing!!
I think some sort of help system implemented in the game makes more sense than a dedicated tutorial, new gamers would be less overwhelmed if they are helped as they go.
and yes, survey sent.
and yes, survey sent.
Tutorial for Key Concept of the game are important, for now only the basic thing there are on the tutorial i thing.
The form seems to be turned off (!?), so I'll just post this here:
Please don't try to be clever or funny if you have no writing experience. The HOI3 tutorial was just an embarrassment. Either hire a writer (we need food!) or don't attempt to write something completely beyond your ability.
I'm sorry if this comes off a little strong - but understand this - yes, the HOI3 tutorial was just that bad.
Please don't try to be clever or funny if you have no writing experience. The HOI3 tutorial was just an embarrassment. Either hire a writer (we need food!) or don't attempt to write something completely beyond your ability.
I'm sorry if this comes off a little strong - but understand this - yes, the HOI3 tutorial was just that bad.
What are you talking about? That was the only reason I did the tutorial.
Someone deleted my post? Weird.
Anyway, could still use a way to get into Google spreadsheets from China or another site with the same questionnaire.
Anyway, could still use a way to get into Google spreadsheets from China or another site with the same questionnaire.
Really? I thought it was hilarious. But as a tutorial, it wasn't good at all. A tutorial really needs to be more interactive to work for such an advanced game.
He has all the answers he need, and the winners were posted here: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11160265&postcount=82
Should have posted here too, sorry about that! Thank you all who participated!
Should have posted here too, sorry about that! Thank you all who participated!
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