Another Reason I Hate Steam---Can't Find my EUIV to open files. Where is it?

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In a default installation, it'll be C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Europa Universalis IV
 

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1. Go to your Library
2. Right Click and then choose Properties
3. Go to Local Files tab
4. Click "Browse Local Files"

Saved Games are in "My Documents/Paradox Interactive" (AFIAK, all versions of the games save them there these days)
 

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As much as I hate Steam, Paradox started moving their saves to the Documents Folder like all the other dumb games even before Steam.

Does anyone know if there's a way to override that and keep the saves in the same folder as the Game Files? My C drive is the smallest hard drive on my system because I prefer to keep Windows isolated so I can nuke the hard drive and reinstall. That works with most games, but Paradox Games are actually quite large.
 

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As much as I hate Steam, Paradox started moving their saves to the Documents Folder like all the other dumb games even before Steam.
It's not "dumb". It's correct Windows programming practice. Saved games are per-user data, and per-user data belongs, by default, in the user's Documents or Application Data directories.

Does anyone know if there's a way to override that and keep the saves in the same folder as the Game Files?
I have a feeling at least one Paradox game had a way to do so, but I can't remember which one and my inspection-fu is failing me.

(There's also a way to tell Windows to put your home directory on a different drive, but I can't remember that either.)
 

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I disagree with the idea that save games are per-user data. If anything I would assert they're per-game data. Maybe, but only maybe, if there were multiple people logging onto my machine I might want my save games somewhere safe.

I've played several games across multiple installations of Windows and different machines. It used to be, back in earlier versions of EU3, that I could be playing a game. Reinstall Windows completely including a full Format of my main system hard drive, and get right back to that game without having to reinstall anything else or even both to check to make sure the files are still there. Not so anymore.

The saves should go wherever I want them.
 

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I disagree with the idea that save games are per-user data. If anything I would assert they're per-game data.
They're both. Which is why they are stored in a game-specific sub-directory of your Documents directory.

The saves should go wherever I want them.
Indeed they should; particularly well-written games provide you with a way to configure where they go (and by extension, games that do not allow you such control are in this regard badly written). In the absence of you asserting a preference, however, games should comply with standard Windows programming practice and store them in your Documents directory.
 

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To change the location where EU4 saves/reads its data - including save games, mods, everything - run eu4.exe with the command line argument: -userdir=e:\path\to\somewhere

e.g.

eu4.exe -userdir=e:\EU4_data

It will then create the full structure under E:\EU4_data, exactly like it normally does under Documents\Paradox Interactive\Europa Universalis IV\.

So best way to get it moved across is first to create your new folder, and then copy the entire contents of the normal EU4 location from Documents into that folder, then run eu4 as above.

Note that because you're running from the command line, you'll need to specify mods manually, in the format:
eu4.exe -userdir=... -mod=mod/CoresNeverExpire.mod -mod=mod/blah.mod
 
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It's not "dumb". It's correct Windows programming practice. Saved games are per-user data, and per-user data belongs, by default, in the user's Documents or Application Data directories.

+1. Saving data in the game/program installation directory is just dumb. And in Windows since Vista and beyond (and in Mac/Linux since.. forever), impossible or highly undesirable because of access restrictions, i.e. User Access Control on Windows. As it should be.
 

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Another Reason I Hate Steam---Can't Find my EUIV to open files. Where is it?

Thanks in advance.
For the record, this is documented in the Tech Support sticky "file locations" thread.
 

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Well that's rude don't blame steam for files you can't find. you search on the web or forums if you can't found files

In all fairness "stemapps" is not a place that one would look first. A folder named "YOURGAMESAREHERE" would be far more useful; though, I do think there probably is a balance between descriptive and technically accurate.


As much as I hate Steam, Paradox started moving their saves to the Documents Folder like all the other dumb games even before Steam.

Saving data in the game/program installation directory is just dumb.

Dumb, Dumb, Dumb. We done saying dumb? Cause there are good arguments to be made for either side.

The fact is, however, that it is the new standard, and like or not, it is the new standard.

To be more specific.

Even if you don't like it, that's where, generally, all save games for all large and new games go.