It's useful for certain kinds of play, such as no-CBing princes in the HRE to force convert back to Catholic. Or if you have other mission related goals that would be difficult to achieve otherwise (looking at you Anbennar). Unfortunately the reform generally hits a little too late. You can probably make do with just diplo ideas for reduced AE and stability hit in the 4 or 5 instances where you need to no CB.
Well usually you have it a little earlier, yes. But the wiki is saying the tech year is 1700.
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Wiki is weird like that. IIRC, it stops being "ahead of time", and you will start losing innovativeness, in 1687 for tech 23.
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I don't do those either because I don't like the stability drops and the extra AE.
But on the other hand I run my country like a despot so?
And despots have principles. For example, I never break allied relations, so missions that offer me to take a piece of territory from an ally annoy me.
I especially do not understand when people complain about how many modifiers you can stack from culture shifting and forming a new country etc. because stuff like that requires lots of active participation from the player to pull off, it isn't forced on you, so you are choosing to stack all those bonuses then complaining afterwards. Just because its possible doesn't mean you should or have to do it. You don't need to play the most optimally you can all the time.
Interesting. Still though, you can have Machiavellianism long before 1687. For example, in my current game as Hungary HRE, I reached tier 8 in 1582. And I am by no means a top gamer, nor am I playing "optimally."
Join the dark side. Late hatred fuel you. From personal experience, you do not need a soul. You need more land.
Sure, but you can get religious finisher by/before then, and not paying dip is (usually) the bigger draw. HRE is something of a special case since distance declarations are more important to do urgently/not easy to achieve otherwise.
Oh, agreed. I was just trying to debunk the original statement that by the time you have tier 8 you're almost at imperialism, when in fact you can have 100 years in between. I didn't even take Machiavellianism in this game, since I'd already finished religious ideas, and revoked the privilegia in 1563.
Sometimes I do get a kind of...sadistic glee from slaughtering rebels and enemy armies, when a country feels 'threatened' towards me, the 'fear of X' modifier, mercenaries terrorising X, watching France et al reduced to nothing, culture converting so the only country that has cores on those provinces is mine, pressing the scorched earth and attack natives button, watching devastation tick up, looting...
Oh, my bad. Missed that line of reasoning. Yeah, if you manage crown land well you can get through reforms pretty fast now, even if you just half state/float around 50% LA.
