Another national idea set.. 30th of July 2013

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Then I'm proud to be contribute towards your cultural history education. :laugh:

(And reading this, Johan's facepalming...)


Nah .. he is too busy working on the demo to read this. Isn't that right Johan :glare:
 

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The defensiveness bonus is very appropriate. Traditionally, fortresses on the western side of the Alps have always been massive, and French always had to struggle a lot to siege them.

The problem is that sieges of strong fortresses in the EU series are way too easy.
 

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Nah .. he is too busy working on the demo to read this. Isn't that right Johan :glare:

If he is, he won't reply :laugh:


I bet we may still see appear a highly mastered piece of rhetoric, something like that:

Originally Posted by Johan

No

Then three more pages of posts, only to determine if that would be a response to this facepalm, the demo of even the simple thought he could answer this post. :rofl:
 

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Several Italian nations (Venice, Genoa, Milan, Naples & Savoy) have their own ideagroups, and forming Italy gives a unique ideagroup as well.

Savoy
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They start with +2 more diplomatic relations, and 25% quicker decay of bad relations.

  1. Repel the French: +25% Defensiveness
  2. The Shroud of Turin: Papal Influence +1, Prestige +0.5
  3. Mercenary Tradition: 25% Cheaper Mercenaries
  4. Crush the Vaudois: +3 Missionary Strength.
  5. Savoyard Flexibility: 10% cheaper ideas.
  6. Alpine Tolls: 10% Stronger Mercantilism
  7. Savoyard Legitimacy: +1 Yearly Legitimacy

When fully powered up, they get +10% Tax Income.

You read in my mind!
I hope also an interesting restyle of the "Sardinia-Piedmont" decision :)
 

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Really curious to see Italy's National Ideas, by the way.
 

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It's SEVERAL, not seven :D
 

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Wow, specific NIs for italian minors? Great! Like the defensiveness bonus, will make them more interesting to conquer as France...

Now I'm hoping for Wallachia. I suppose Vlad Tepes will be in, but a NI related to impaling would be funny :p
 

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Wow, specific NIs for italian minors? Great! Like the defensiveness bonus, will make them more interesting to conquer as France...

Now I'm hoping for Wallachia. I suppose Vlad Tepes will be in, but a NI related to impaling would be funny :p

No, those are specific to Savoya, not Italian minors: Savoy

They start with +2 more diplomatic relations, and 25% quicker decay of bad relations.

Repel the French: +25% Defensiveness
The Shroud of Turin: Papal Influence +1, Prestige +0.5
Mercenary Tradition: 25% Cheaper Mercenaries
Crush the Vaudois: +3 Missionary Strength.
Savoyard Flexibility: 10% cheaper ideas.
Alpine Tolls: 10% Stronger Mercantilism
Savoyard Legitimacy: +1 Yearly Legitimacy
It's kinda obvious when you read the ideas.

edit: My half-romanian blood can't wait to know too if Wallachia and Moldavia will have any particular NI :)
At least a common group for romanian culture I hope :)
 

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No, those are specific to Savoya, not Italian minors: Savoy

That's what I meant, sorry if it was unclear.

I hope that at least part of the Balkans and Romania have been more fleshed out since Quill's version, given their importance in Europe conflicts against the Ottomans. And who wouldn't want to rule a Transylvanian Empire? Well, I guess you could export a CKII save with Carpathia... but then probably won't have the all-mighty Ottomans to face.
 

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6. Mhh... Savoyards have always been soldiers more than merchants.. I would have given a military bonus instead..

Savoyards started out as essentially bandits who collected tolls on the Alpine passes. Its an important part of Savoy's history but its really an early medieval part that should not be 5th out of 7 in a renaissance set game. It should be their starting or first idea.

Savoy didn't have many of its own merchants, but it was a crossroads that depended on foreign merchants and pilgrims for its income. I don't know what a 'mercantalism bonus' does but hopefully its something that will help Savoy make money from trade between Italy and Germany.
 

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edit: My half-romanian blood can't wait to know too if Wallachia and Moldavia will have any particular NI :)
At least a common group for romanian culture I hope :)

Yeah, I thought that too, I think Wallacchia is a good candidate for that.
In the east there is also Serbia that could be interesting.