Another national idea set.. 30th of July 2013

[Johan]

Several Italian nations (Venice, Genoa, Milan, Naples & Savoy) have their own ideagroups, and forming Italy gives a unique ideagroup as well.

Savoy

They start with +2 more diplomatic relations, and 25% quicker decay of bad relations.

1. Repel the French: +25% Defensiveness
2. The Shroud of Turin: Papal Influence +1, Prestige +0.5
3. Mercenary Tradition: 25% Cheaper Mercenaries
4. Crush the Vaudois: +3 Missionary Strength.
5. Savoyard Flexibility: 10% cheaper ideas.
6. Alpine Tolls: 10% Stronger Mercantilism
7. Savoyard Legitimacy: +1 Yearly Legitimacy

When fully powered up, they get +10% Tax Income.

 

[stilgarpl]

They start with +2 more diplomatic relations, and 25% quicker decay of bad relations.

What does it mean?

 

[Comradebot]

In before *rabblerabblerabblePolandrabblerabblerabble*

Interesting. I've been thinking an Italian state may be a fun option this go around.

 

[Johan]

What does it mean?

2 more possible alliances, marriages, vassals etc without paying upkeep.

 

[Zipi]

stop teasing us :laugh:

but looks good for the italian minors

 

[Tirenedon]

Number five looks like a good bonus. I wonder what Italy's ideas are.

 

[NADster]

[*]Alpine Tolls: 10% Stronger Mercantilism

The first time I read "Alpine Trolls" ...

 

[Duke Von Hannover]

Is the KoG still formable by the Papacy, and why did the Papacy not get national ideas? I was a little shocked to discover this when I saw that all theocracies got the same ideas .

 

[Blaaat]

In before *rabblerabblerabblePolandrabblerabblerabble*

Sadly enough they did the Poland NI last weekend. ;(

 

[horngeek]

The first time I read "Alpine Trolls" ...

Well, someone has to collect those tolls off the merchants...

 

[omnipotentatus]

Number five looks like a good bonus. I wonder what Italy's ideas are.

Italy's ideas are going to be the same as whatever state forms Italy, so if Venice forms Italy, Italy gets the venetian ideas...

 

[Tirenedon]

Italy's ideas are going to be the same as whatever state forms Italy, so if Venice forms Italy, Italy gets the venetian ideas...

Johan did say that:

forming Italy gives a unique ideagroup as well.

 

[FranzVonG]

Savoy

They start with +2 more diplomatic relations, and 25% quicker decay of bad relations.

1. Repel the French: +25% Defensiveness
2. The Shroud of Turin: Papal Influence +1, Prestige +0.5
3. Mercenary Tradition: 25% Cheaper Mercenaries
4. Crush the Vaudois: +3 Missionary Strength.
5. Savoyard Flexibility: 10% cheaper ideas.
6. Alpine Tolls: 10% Stronger Mercantilism
7. Savoyard Legitimacy: +1 Yearly Legitimacy

When fully powered up, they get +10% Tax Income.

The initial bonus makes sense, Savoy always tried to show a good face to everyone (and was very quick in changing alliances to avoid being absorbed by greater neighbours)

1. Yep, we did it a few times (most notable, at the Battle of Assietta).
2. Still there and still target of pilgrimages
3. Mhh, not so famous for this, other italian states were far bigger employers of mercenaries. Nonetheless, we had our share of Swiss, French, German and Italian regiments
4. The persecutions were done mostly to appease the French more than for a religious reason, but ok
5. Random idea? Flexibility is not really what Piedmontese are famous for
6. Mhh... Savoyards have always been soldiers more than merchants.. I would have given a military bonus instead..
7. I would have called it "House of Savoy" Legitimacy, but ok

+ Tax Income? Again, military bonus would have been historically more correct

 

[4TyStigma]

But what about the demo? :happy:

 

[Comradebot]

Sadly enough they did the Poland NI last weekend. ;(

Whoops, I missed it. Well, good to see them and Lithuania finally get talked about


Also, someone should probably update the dev diary archive...

 

[Andy_Dandy]

Savoy is a very interesting nation to play. Thanx for info Johan, our good old chap!

 

[Grubnessul]

What does 10% stronger mercantilism mean?

 

[glarnak]

Very nicely done Dev's.

 

[omnipotentatus]

Johan did say that:

Wut? how did i miss that...

I demand that you give us Italy's NI group right now Johan! ;D

 

[BoleslavLev]

He just forgot about that. Too much work with the demo.