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What is a good country to play when trying to learn this game? Nothing too massive preferably. What should you actually try to do when playing this country?

What is the point/goal of the game? I know there isn't really a specific goal but whenever I start it up I just sit there not knowing what to do, and not really being able to do anything. You can't attack anyone because you rarely have a CB; obviously you can attack them but evidently you aren't supposed to hence the imposed penalty.

Your revenue is always negative. Even if you increase your trade revenue the budget is still in deficit because the game seems to auto-spend the extra funds on the research sliders and you can't decrease the total spent (ie: you decrease one slider and all the others increase).

Every country you click has multiple alliances making them impossible to attack even if you wanted to. Offers of alliances pop up non-stop but it's unclear what you will gain by joining, and is very difficult to actually check any stats of the country offering.

Is there some sort of playthough somewhere?

The game literally confuses me; not only because there's a lot to it, but more so because you seem to be unable to do anything. If you could at least expand for a bit or do something it might make it easier to have some sort of goal to begin with. In MotE you are just at war all the time and the reasons for it are at least clear as the game has an objective. The lack of needing a CB in order to declare war makes it too difficult to play as anything other than a massive country though. CK2 requires CB's in order to attack but they can be manufactured directly, or obtained by making vassels of people with claims so I know exactly what I need to do if I want to attack there, and expanding gives you access to more levies as best as I can remember seeing as troops are never directly "built" in that game.

In EU3 I just don't see what you can do, why you'd ever need to expand seeing as you can build infinite troops with only one province owned and what you are meant to be doing.
 

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Ugh where to begin.

A good country for a newby is one that is relatively safe from being jumped by its neighbors, and that, inevitably means a big and powerful country.

Best choices are: Castille, France and England. Many people will suggest Portugal, but know that Portugal is smaller than Castille and there is a pretty good chance they will attack you and then you have no chance (or almost no chance).

The point of this game is to survive prosper and thrive. Just like any other game i guess. Colonize, conquer, spread culture, your choice...

Your MONTHLY revenue will almost always be negative, thats normal. You have monthly expenses that you cover from your treasury. However, as long as your YEARLY income is positive, youre fine. On every 1st of january youll get sum of gold equaling total tax value of all your provinces multiplied by direct tax % efficiency, and as long as the amount of gold you lose MONTHLY multiplied by 12 (number of months in a year) is lower than your YEARLY income sum, youre fine, youll make a + in treasury every year.

When you ally someone the only thing you gain is possible ally when someone declares war at you, or call to arms if they declare war to someone/someone declare war on them. Do NOT rely on AI allies. They will betray you. Only ally them when you absolutely have to. Otherwise avoid them like plague. The alliance system is designed in such a way that doesnt allow you to conquer what you want when you want it. You have to be smart about and wait for a good opportunity, for example, if target country and its alliance is already at war with someone else.

You have youtube there should lots of playthroughs there. This game is not Call of Duty. It will require active use of your brain, and i highly doubt watching other people play will do you much good. Best way to learn is to actually play the game.

Youre meant to expand, either by conquest or colonization. You can recruit endless amount of troops from a single province, but you cant maintain those units forever, youll run out of cash. You have to be smart about it.
 

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A playthrough? Take your pick.

For your first country you should try something like England or Castille. They are great countries for learning the game, and if you find yourself with nothing to do then just try to complete whatever mission you happen to have. You will find the game will have plenty to offer.

The game can be pretty complex, but just head on over to the wiki to get answers for most of your questions. It just recently started being updated again.
 
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My personal advice is that you should declare war against people even loosing prestige. I have been playing for a week or so with Spain also learning. Right now (1435 aprox.) I control all the african Mediterranean, The iberian peninsula, three provinces in England, Avignon, Savoy, Naples, and something like 7 provinces in the Amsterdam area. You can do somethings if you try...

My advice is that you read the wiki of the game, and follow one strategy of one of the bigger countries. I play with Castille, not only because I am Spanish, but also because the country is far away from center europe, and therefor you decide for the moment where to attack
 

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I think its for more advance players but for an active game with tons of wars I would suggest Muscowy (the easier one to play if you want to fight from the start) and Byzantium (harder but it is really really really rewarding!). Castille is a best choice for total beginners and keep an eye on Portugal. Short term goal for Castille is finish off Granada and create Spain or the empire of Hispania (Its just spain+portugal).
 

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I tried playing as Castille and that went a bit better in the sense that there were things to do. I annexed Granada (?) I think, allied portugal and attacked morroco. That didn't work, then Aragon attacked me and half the world joined in so I think that is game over there. I'll have to try again.

Is it intentional that you can't see any data on a country's army size until you lift the fog of war? is there no way you can find that info out in the ledger beforehand?

Is there any way to somehow make a country break it's alliance with another country before attacking it?
 

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I tried playing as Castille and that went a bit better in the sense that there were things to do. I annexed Granada (?) I think, allied portugal and attacked morroco. That didn't work, then Aragon attacked me and half the world joined in so I think that is game over there. I'll have to try again.

Is it intentional that you can't see any data on a country's army size until you lift the fog of war? is there no way you can find that info out in the ledger beforehand?

Is there any way to somehow make a country break it's alliance with another country before attacking it?

When did you attack Morroco? Waiting until someone calls a crusade against them is a good idea since you wont fight alone.
regarding Aragon, ally with France because France always steamroll Aragon and that way you wont have any problems stealing the provinces bordering you.
When you declear a war against one that is allied with your ally, make sure you got really good standing to that country and they will break the alliance with your enemy and join your side.
 

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I attacked Morocco fairly early. I managed to get a spy in and was able to see they had about 19k troops which I was ok with, I thought I could get a victory. I was allied with portugal and brought them with me. The problem with this war was that my 10k stack got attacked when it landed and lost, moved to another province and was followed and lost again, the cycle repeated itself about 5 times and my army kept losing as it had zero morale and I couldn't do anything to get them out of there. I actually bought my way out of that war for 25 ducats and no other penalties.

The problem was that Aragon attacked straight away and was allied with france and a couple of other countries and my army was already weakened (not that I could have fought them off even if I had been at full strength.)

I actually had a CB to attack Aragon and probably should have done that whilst France was fighting someone else instead of attacking Morroco.
 

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From what I remember Marocco starts with a higher land tech, they start with 5 if I remember correctly and you start with 3 so attacking them straight on is something thats best later when you get better land tech. Their provinces also have high attrition so your large stacks suffer greatly.

Regarding France, the trick is to just give them money until you are way up there, best a relationship of 200. As long as you dont get 'impossible' when you ask for an alliance just keep asking them but remember to raise relationship up to atleast 180 before asking again. Oh and of course get a royal marriage. I cant recall having any problems becoming best friends with France so just keep trying :) You can do it! also, see whom France are allied with and get alliances with them (Not aragon ofc)
 

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I attacked Morocco fairly early. I managed to get a spy in and was able to see they had about 19k troops which I was ok with, I thought I could get a victory. I was allied with portugal and brought them with me. The problem with this war was that my 10k stack got attacked when it landed and lost, moved to another province and was followed and lost again, the cycle repeated itself about 5 times and my army kept losing as it had zero morale and I couldn't do anything to get them out of there. I actually bought my way out of that war for 25 ducats and no other penalties.

The problem was that Aragon attacked straight away and was allied with france and a couple of other countries and my army was already weakened (not that I could have fought them off even if I had been at full strength.)

I actually had a CB to attack Aragon and probably should have done that whilst France was fighting someone else instead of attacking Morroco.

As far as I remember, Morocco usually chews me and spits me out and I got lucky as Castille back then when Portugal got my back. Aragon is top priority and could be done in 2 wars and you have to absolutely make sure that France would never ever ever ever hold a province of Spain. I rarely did a border friction cb against portugal since they usually are allied with England or someone else that could chew me and spit me out. I usually expanded throughout North africa as Castille and never knew how I could backstab France. Those doomstacks are annoying.
 

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HRE/Burgundy.

Will probably give them a spin soon. I think I grew fond of Byz and Muscowy and even find Muscowy a billion times easier (except for the nightmare you call westernisation) compared to playing as Castille. I tend to do a lot of mistakes with Castille and it had too much awesomeness that I don't know what to do with it whereas you are slowly turning in to a great power with Muscowy and Byz
 

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Will probably give them a spin soon. I think I grew fond of Byz and Muscowy and even find Muscowy a billion times easier (except for the nightmare you call westernisation) compared to playing as Castille. I tend to do a lot of mistakes with Castille and it had too much awesomeness that I don't know what to do with it whereas you are slowly turning in to a great power with Muscowy and Byz

Oh no, I ment ally with HRE/Burgundy. very often France tries to steal german culture lands as well as clash with Burgundy.
 

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Oh no, I ment ally with HRE/Burgundy. very often France tries to steal german culture lands as well as clash with Burgundy.

I know Burgundy v France is inevitable and in my failed english game, I always try to sell my french province to both burgundy and france and wish they would fight. Like I said, I find Muscowy easier to play than Castille as I don't know how to act around larger powers and I know the Horde could kill me but I think its easier to deal with the horde than any of the superpowers.